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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishira View Post
    What does pointing out the obvious achieve? I’m genuinely curious, because I’ve never understood the function of it unless it’s a consequence of sincere surprise (“Oh no, you got completely soaked!”).
    It opens up a conversation, or it can be funny as you said, or it can show that you have noticed a problem and are willing to offer a solution without feeding it to them before they ask.

    "Your melds are incorrect."

    "Really? What should I meld?"

    "Crit and direct hit are best for your job."

    "Thanks, give me a minute and I'll fix it."

    Quote Originally Posted by KOPF View Post
    That is exactly my point as well. You are Finnish like me, so it definitely could also be a cultural difference.
    Wow, I thought I was going crazy but it all makes a lot of sense now. "If you can't do the mechanic well, you shouldn't join a farm party" is word for word something I could imagine myself saying. It's reasonable, it explains what I'm thinking and it's not offensive. I would have no hard feelings if someone said it to me. Gentle indirect speech like "let's all check if our gear is in order" when one person is making the mistake is something I'd only expect to hear from a kindergarten teacher. It's condescending. It also doesn't tell me if I am the one who has to improve.

    It's good to be aware of these kinds of cultural differences, I think. I don't want to insult anyone on purpose. It does make me a little bit sad that the game is specifically banning the style of communication I've been used to my whole life.
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    ICountFrom0's Avatar
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post


    Wow, I thought I was going crazy but it all makes a lot of sense now. "If you can't do the mechanic well, you shouldn't join a farm party" is word for word something I could imagine myself saying. It's reasonable, it explains what I'm thinking and it's not offensive. I would have no hard feelings if someone said it to me. Gentle indirect speech like "let's all check if our gear is in order" when one person is making the mistake is something I'd only expect to hear from a kindergarten teacher. It's condescending. It also doesn't tell me if I am the one who has to improve.

    It's good to be aware of these kinds of cultural differences, I think. I don't want to insult anyone on purpose. It does make me a little bit sad that the game is specifically banning the style of communication I've been used to my whole life.
    I aint finnish, but I'm far more likely to be offended by one person saying that everybody should check equipment, then one person with badly setup equipment getting a lesson in properly setting up materia, even if that person who was an idiot and had it wrong was ME.

    (hint, it HAS been me, and if somebody hadden't been dirrect, I wouldn't have ever figured it out).
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Gentle indirect speech like "let's all check if our gear is in order" when one person is making the mistake is something I'd only expect to hear from a kindergarten teacher. It's condescending. It also doesn't tell me if I am the one who has to improve.
    Again it does depend exactly what you're trying to convey. Having a conversation about what specific gear melds you need does require a more in-depth conversation with the one person than a "do X when Y happens" instruction that doesn't need to be explored further.
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