Is bard in a bad spot right now?

[Easayia]

I love how you guys are trying to say that since bard doesn't LITERALLY only have 1 button its not a 1 button class instead of addressing the point that the class is in fact simple as fuck.

I understand that they took away the crit chance procs, thus dumbing down IJ to just a dot refresher, I understand that they removed Foe Requiem which was an iconic part of Bard's kit, which stripped it of its identity. I know they removed Refresh, which added oodles of depth to Foe Requiem. I know they removed Bard's ways of providing utility beyond "boost team damage by X and reduce damage taken by Y"

1. The Job is not that simple its simple in how it works sure But all the procs are RNG when you actually play Bard you discover where to put certain abilities for the most effect throughout the rotation. You discover when things dont proc how to deal with it. You also discover when to use parts of the kit other Bad Bards and trust me you can notice them do not do. Many of the changes coming to Endwalker are both QOL and the new Buffing with the Coda's just added to the kit that Bard already has that many like and appreciate and others will continue to meme on when in reality its an Enjoyable Job to play.

2. "understand that they took away the crit chance procs, thus dumbing down IJ to just a dot refresher"

This didnt dumb down anything just changed how the procs worked.

3. "removed Foe Requiem which was an iconic part of Bard's kit, which stripped it of its identity. I know they removed Refresh, which added oodles of depth to Foe Requiem. I know they removed Bard's ways of providing utility beyond "boost team damage by X and reduce damage taken by Y"[/QUOTE]

Many classes lost things with those changes not just Bard they just didnt give Bard back anything really but with Endwalker they are giving the job another buffing skill which is what we were asking for.
"boost team damage by X and reduce damage taken by Y"

This is every Job its how they wanted to balance it deal with it.....

[ExcogEnjoyer]

1. The Job is not that simple its simple in how it works sure But all the procs are RNG when you actually play Bard you discover where to put certain abilities for the most effect throughout the rotation. You discover when things dont proc how to deal with it. You also discover when to use parts of the kit other Bad Bards and trust me you can notice them do not do. Many of the changes coming to Endwalker are both QOL and the new Buffing with the Coda's just added to the kit that Bard already has that many like and appreciate and others will continue to meme on when in reality its an Enjoyable Job to play.

This is a whole lotta words to say "You press the button when it procs but then dont when it doesn't proc"
The job has always been extremely simple but with the removal of stuff like Foe, Bard is even easier than before.

This didnt dumb down anything just changed how the procs worked.

It objectively is dumbed down. This is not an opinion, it is a fact.

Many classes lost things with those changes not just Bard they just didnt give Bard back anything really but with Endwalker they are giving the job another buffing skill which is what we were asking for.

No, I'm asking for Foe Requiem and Refresh, i dont want the new skill which is just Divination but worse and more clunky.

This is every Job its how they wanted to balance it deal with it.....

Yea and its terrible balancing that makes every job feel bland.

[Anhra]

I think bad is more in a bard spot, rather than bard being in a bad spot.

[Aiscence]

I think bad is more in a bard spot, rather than bard being in a bad spot.

True, there are the good jobs, then there are the 1%dps bots.

[Easayia]

True, there are the good jobs, then there are the 1%dps bots.

Good players is the way I took Anhras post.

Bad in a Bard spot = AKA bad player/ bad bard player

[Taranok]

This sounds like a god awful idea, let’s break BRD kneecaps just cuz and delete rather than reinvigorate which has always been the issue with their half asses reworks. Way WAY to eager to erase

How would it break Bard's kneecaps? Genuinely curious. Oh, it'd absolutely devastate its theme, there's no doubt about that. The class would 100% become a Ranger after such a thing, but all you'd be doing is turning the class into permanent wanderer's minuet and upgrading bloodletter into a superior version of bloodletter that almost never overcaps and in general would at least flow the tiniest bit better.

Ask yourself this: For your rotation, as a player, what does Mages Ballad and Army's Paeon actually do for you. What does PP do for you when not in WM, and what does bloodletter do for you when not in MB and brainlessly clicking it every 15 seconds?

MB enables bloodletter to overcap and feel awful since you basically have to hawk your bars repeatedly, and AP speeds up your GCD to the point where double weaving can become a problem. Entire rotations are built around getting out of AP as fast as possible, but it always leads directly into your burst rotation unless there's another rotation I'm not aware of.

So aside from shattering your kneecaps thematically, how would it actually make the gameplay worse?

[Jirah]

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You already agree it would devastate the theme which is synonymous with breaking its kneecaps so that’s that haha

But again Devs are way to eager to delete than to improve, it’s like if Dragoon’s Dots were too potent so they removed the entire dot rotation. Essentially Bombing the pond for a goldfish. Also how lame would BRD be to just have 1 song on repeat forever?

I’ve asked myself and in turn, does damage, resets OGCDs and grants you speed, I don’t understand what your asking me for. The meaning of life?

Look BRD has already gotten beaten up rather than asking to can ever skill that “feelsbad” why not enhance and revitalize it? I’m so sick of the devs doing this to every job

[narwhal]

I haven't played BRD at endgame yet but it was a lot of fun to level even if it felt slow at killing things in the open world.

[ExcogEnjoyer]

I would simply delete the three "Songs" bard has currently and give back Foe Req and refresh.

[Easayia]

I would simply delete the three "Songs" bard has currently and give back Foe Req and refresh.

No your not a Bard main your a Scholar most of your comments in here show you don't understand nor care about the job you want it changed to your playstyle which sorry Bard Mains do not want that.