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    Taranok's Avatar
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    This sounds like a god awful idea, let’s break BRD kneecaps just cuz and delete rather than reinvigorate which has always been the issue with their half asses reworks. Way WAY to eager to erase
    How would it break Bard's kneecaps? Genuinely curious. Oh, it'd absolutely devastate its theme, there's no doubt about that. The class would 100% become a Ranger after such a thing, but all you'd be doing is turning the class into permanent wanderer's minuet and upgrading bloodletter into a superior version of bloodletter that almost never overcaps and in general would at least flow the tiniest bit better.

    Ask yourself this: For your rotation, as a player, what does Mages Ballad and Army's Paeon actually do for you. What does PP do for you when not in WM, and what does bloodletter do for you when not in MB and brainlessly clicking it every 15 seconds?

    MB enables bloodletter to overcap and feel awful since you basically have to hawk your bars repeatedly, and AP speeds up your GCD to the point where double weaving can become a problem. Entire rotations are built around getting out of AP as fast as possible, but it always leads directly into your burst rotation unless there's another rotation I'm not aware of.

    So aside from shattering your kneecaps thematically, how would it actually make the gameplay worse?
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    Rika007's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rika Lockhart
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taranok View Post
    How would it break Bard's kneecaps? Genuinely curious. Oh, it'd absolutely devastate its theme, there's no doubt about that. The class would 100% become a Ranger after such a thing, but all you'd be doing is turning the class into permanent wanderer's minuet and upgrading bloodletter into a superior version of bloodletter that almost never overcaps and in general would at least flow the tiniest bit better.

    Ask yourself this: For your rotation, as a player, what does Mages Ballad and Army's Paeon actually do for you. What does PP do for you when not in WM, and what does bloodletter do for you when not in MB and brainlessly clicking it every 15 seconds?

    MB enables bloodletter to overcap and feel awful since you basically have to hawk your bars repeatedly, and AP speeds up your GCD to the point where double weaving can become a problem. Entire rotations are built around getting out of AP as fast as possible, but it always leads directly into your burst rotation unless there's another rotation I'm not aware of.

    So aside from shattering your kneecaps thematically, how would it actually make the gameplay worse?
    It may surprise you but some players actively enjoy the things that you are directly thinking do nothing for you or are problems. "Hawking your Bar's Repeatedly" is something I find engaging. I like random procs. I like to have to keep one eye on the Blood Letter Icon that I have placed right below my Job gauge, or on those three glowing pitch perfect procs. I also enjoy that different parts of my rotation FEEL DIFFERENT. I don't want to be doing nothing but Pitch perfects for an entire fight, that literally would remove the amazing feeling of Pitch perfect being that heaving hitting ability I have to let boost up and get strong, while then comparing it to the MB portion where I feel more like I'm on rapid fire just spitting out arrows like a machine gun. And I LIKE having a short cool down period at the end of a cycle in Army's Paeon that lets me take a breath for a moment before I roll into another major burst. The sped up GCD isn't an issue in that moment because I'm not needing to double weave.


    Are there problems with these things? Gods yes. WM and PP does not proc nearly enough compared to how it did in Stormblood. Blood Letters overcapping is still an issue and while 2 charges may help, it may need some more. Army's Muse is still an awful trait and needs to be reworked entirely. But the answer to those things is NOT to delete them entirely, when very simple fixes would correct the problem. Stormblood BRD was literally a dream and one of the most well received jobs in the games history. The bones of that job is still in the current BRD, it is not Summoner level where the table needs to be flipped and the entire rotation needs to be changed. Upped proc rates during raging, a 3rd charge on blood letter, a reworking to how Army's Muse works (or just outright removal) would literally solve the majority of issues most people have with the songs far better then clicking the delete key.
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