Extreme over correction in ToS? New ToS is going to kill pugging

[Nafreyu]

Square's new ToS is going to absolutely kill pugging next tier. Let's take a look at some of their prohibited behaviors and provide examples on how this is going to kill pugging.

1. Expressions that compel a playing style
If someone hops into a PF and plays as pure healer and you call them out on it, you can now get banned for it. This is insane, I don't want a pure healer in my party. It's not even possible to clear with a pure healer on week 1.


2. Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc.
What? Now I can't kick players that join a part 3 prog party if they're still stuck on part 1? What if the person accidentally joined a part 3 party and thought it was fresh prog? Am I going to get banned for asking them if they know how to do part 2?

3. Expressions that provoke or belittle another person, such as excessive criticism, negation/ridicule
More specifically `"It's [player name]'s fault that we wiped"`. I guess it's now illegal to point out what caused a wipe the previous pull in a prog party. Have fun progressing on mechanics like light rampant where it's extremely difficult to find out why there was a wipe without another person's pov.

Link: https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216

There's a way to say all that without coming across as an asshat too.

[Equitable_Remedy]

The sky is not, in fact, falling.

It's fine; calm down.

[Gemina]

Square's new ToS is going to absolutely kill pugging next tier. Let's take a look at some of their prohibited behaviors and provide examples on how this is going to kill pugging.

1. Expressions that compel a playing style
If someone hops into a PF and plays as pure healer and you call them out on it, you can now get banned for it. This is insane, I don't want a pure healer in my party. It's not even possible to clear with a pure healer on week 1.


2. Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc.
What? Now I can't kick players that join a part 3 prog party if they're still stuck on part 1? What if the person accidentally joined a part 3 party and thought it was fresh prog? Am I going to get banned for asking them if they know how to do part 2?

3. Expressions that provoke or belittle another person, such as excessive criticism, negation/ridicule
More specifically `"It's [player name]'s fault that we wiped"`. I guess it's now illegal to point out what caused a wipe the previous pull in a prog party. Have fun progressing on mechanics like light rampant where it's extremely difficult to find out why there was a wipe without another person's pov.

Link: https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216

1. I've been playing since 2014. Not once have I, or have I felt the need to call someone out on their playstyle. Not one time. The only time I have ever tried to help someone with their playstyle is when they have specifically asked for it.

2. That would be gatekeeping as far as I understand it. No matter what it is, player dictated exclusion is unacceptable. Period.

3. It's a team game. You succeed and fail as a team. You can point out what caused a wipe. Just not who. Which is fine. It's the mechanic that needs to be explained and understood. You don't do that by pointing a player and telling them they screwed up.

As usual, players will try to spin the ToS like it is so unfair, when players are really just angry that they can't be arseholes.

[Jin-]

Things were better when the Internet world was a dead man's land.

[Ranaku]

Well just do it like the players from the JP datacenters.

If you learn a new trial that is declared as such in the partyfinder so people obviously shouldn't be that concerned about wipes etc. since you just learn the mechanics together.

If you go for a clear, try it a couple times if it doesn't work DISBAND and search a new group.

[Darkobra]

It's so much nonsense in so little words.

1. You can have a static and doing pug on the side the rest of the week
2. Some mecanics instantly kills the whole party if done wrong, and you can't do anything about it no matter how good you are, it's a group thing if one is terrible it can affect the whole party.
3. It doesn't even make any sense.

I can see why you're worried now too.

Wow, you're all outing yourselves in this thread for such a casual game.

[Izscha]

I can see why you're worried now too.

Wow, you're all outing yourselves in this thread for such a casual game.

I'm not i dont say anything in this game, but nice try.
Let me try this internet warrior technique too on you.
I can see why you do feel the urge to undermine good players in this game, even a casual game is too much for you to handle.
Casual player hating on raiders, truly something no one has ever seen before so original.

[Claire_Pendragon]

If you're worried about rules changing so you have to speak to people politely, it really says more about you.

Isnt this statement against the ToS?

[LittleImp]

Isnt this statement against the ToS?

You'll find a lot of these "good" people trying to hold others to a high standard of behavior frequently don't abide by their own standards.

FFXIV twitter has taught me that there's an alarming correlation between moral grandstanding and having a record of being sent to GM jail.

[Darkobra]

I'm not i dont say anything in this game, but nice try.
Let me try this internet warrior technique too on you.
I can see why you do feel the urge to undermine good players in this game, even a casual game is too much for you to handle.
Casual player hating on raiders, truly something no one has ever seen before so original.

You use Cactpot. GG.