Is bard in a bad spot right now?

[Jirah]

"The problem is they removed a lot of fun stuff in order to nerf bard but went overboard and now its a 1 button class."

Then your playing Bard wrong. Im never not hitting multiple buttons throughout my rotation the only spot it really slows down is with paeon the weaker song there you are holding onto everything for your burst phase and only pressing 1 button.

This right here

No job is too dense to be a “one button class” besides makes Healers damage kit which so far no DPS come close to that amount

Jobs Can however feel automatic which even still BRD isn’t not compared to the worse offenders. And clearly you don’t understand what they took away as you didn’t mention the little nuances that SB mains love talking about it.

[ExcogEnjoyer]

This right here

No job is too dense to be a “one button class” besides makes Healers damage kit which so far no DPS come close to that amount

Jobs Can however feel automatic which even still BRD isn’t not compared to the worse offenders. And clearly you don’t understand what they took away as you didn’t mention the little nuances that SB mains love talking about it.

I love how you guys are trying to say that since bard doesn't LITERALLY only have 1 button its not a 1 button class instead of addressing the point that the class is in fact simple as fuck.

I understand that they took away the crit chance procs, thus dumbing down IJ to just a dot refresher, I understand that they removed Foe Requiem which was an iconic part of Bard's kit, which stripped it of its identity. I know they removed Refresh, which added oodles of depth to Foe Requiem. I know they removed Bard's ways of providing utility beyond "boost team damage by X and reduce damage taken by Y"

[Easayia]

I love how you guys are trying to say that since bard doesn't LITERALLY only have 1 button its not a 1 button class instead of addressing the point that the class is in fact simple as fuck.

I understand that they took away the crit chance procs, thus dumbing down IJ to just a dot refresher, I understand that they removed Foe Requiem which was an iconic part of Bard's kit, which stripped it of its identity. I know they removed Refresh, which added oodles of depth to Foe Requiem. I know they removed Bard's ways of providing utility beyond "boost team damage by X and reduce damage taken by Y"

1. The Job is not that simple its simple in how it works sure But all the procs are RNG when you actually play Bard you discover where to put certain abilities for the most effect throughout the rotation. You discover when things dont proc how to deal with it. You also discover when to use parts of the kit other Bad Bards and trust me you can notice them do not do. Many of the changes coming to Endwalker are both QOL and the new Buffing with the Coda's just added to the kit that Bard already has that many like and appreciate and others will continue to meme on when in reality its an Enjoyable Job to play.

2. "understand that they took away the crit chance procs, thus dumbing down IJ to just a dot refresher"

This didnt dumb down anything just changed how the procs worked.

3. "removed Foe Requiem which was an iconic part of Bard's kit, which stripped it of its identity. I know they removed Refresh, which added oodles of depth to Foe Requiem. I know they removed Bard's ways of providing utility beyond "boost team damage by X and reduce damage taken by Y"[/QUOTE]

Many classes lost things with those changes not just Bard they just didnt give Bard back anything really but with Endwalker they are giving the job another buffing skill which is what we were asking for.
"boost team damage by X and reduce damage taken by Y"

This is every Job its how they wanted to balance it deal with it.....

[ExcogEnjoyer]

1. The Job is not that simple its simple in how it works sure But all the procs are RNG when you actually play Bard you discover where to put certain abilities for the most effect throughout the rotation. You discover when things dont proc how to deal with it. You also discover when to use parts of the kit other Bad Bards and trust me you can notice them do not do. Many of the changes coming to Endwalker are both QOL and the new Buffing with the Coda's just added to the kit that Bard already has that many like and appreciate and others will continue to meme on when in reality its an Enjoyable Job to play.

This is a whole lotta words to say "You press the button when it procs but then dont when it doesn't proc"
The job has always been extremely simple but with the removal of stuff like Foe, Bard is even easier than before.

This didnt dumb down anything just changed how the procs worked.

It objectively is dumbed down. This is not an opinion, it is a fact.

Many classes lost things with those changes not just Bard they just didnt give Bard back anything really but with Endwalker they are giving the job another buffing skill which is what we were asking for.

No, I'm asking for Foe Requiem and Refresh, i dont want the new skill which is just Divination but worse and more clunky.

This is every Job its how they wanted to balance it deal with it.....

Yea and its terrible balancing that makes every job feel bland.