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[Scryar]

Mass pulling before the tank, instead, is very polite.

Wasting your parties time bei single group pulling isn't polite either.

[odioillatino]

Wasting your parties time bei single group pulling isn't polite either.

No, that's intended gameplay.

[Scryar]

No, that's intended gameplay.

How so? The way trashmob groups are placed you can either pull one or two(or more in some older dungeons). It's nowhere stated which options is the intended one.
If SE wanted groups to just pull single trash groups they would have placed barriers between every group

[odioillatino]

How so? The way trashmob groups are placed you can either pull one or two(or more in some older dungeons). It's nowhere stated which options is the intended one.
If SE wanted groups to just pull single trash groups they would have placed barriers between every group

Just because there aren't walls in between, it doesn't mean that they MUST be pulled all together. Because it's the tank's job to keep all the mobs on them, I would argue that it's their responsibility to pull how many they're comfortable with.

[Scryar]

Just because there aren't walls in between, it doesn't mean that they MUST be pulled all together. Because it's the tank's job to keep all the mobs on them, I would argue that it's their responsibility to pull how many they're comfortable with.

I never said they must be pulled and the tank is doing the dungeon with 3 other people, all depended on each other. It's not just for him to decide how the group approaches a dungeon.
And I'm saying this as someone who plays almost exclusively tanks in dungeons

[Saraide]

Just because there aren't walls in between, it doesn't mean that they MUST be pulled all together. Because it's the tank's job to keep all the mobs on them, I would argue that it's their responsibility to pull how many they're comfortable with.

It's true, they dont have to be pulled but it's clearly intentional that you can where possible because where it's intented that you cant pull ahead there are walls in place. It's also true that it's the tank's job to keep aggro on them. However it's not about what the tank is comfortable with but what is appropriate. It's not allowed to stop doing your job as tank just because someone does something you dont like (pull for you). You are still expected to contribute to the party and for tanks that means holding aggro and using mitigation.

[Thamorian]

No, that's intended gameplay.

No it's not.

[odioillatino]

No it's not.

Maybe in the next expansion the dungeons will be just big square rooms with all the mobs together. Until then, as a tank, I will keep deciding how many mobs to pull. If you want to pull more, prepare to get the consequences of your actions, or just play tank.

[Thamorian]

Maybe in the next expansion the dungeons will be just big square rooms with all the mobs together. Until then, as a tank, I will keep deciding how many mobs to pull. If you want to pull more, prepare to get the consequences of your actions, or just play tank.

You can do that, but saying it is the intended gameplay is just flat out false. Not to say pulling everything is the intended gameplay, because neither is really. But saying single group pulls is the default is not what 95%+ of the community agrees with. So long as as more than 1 group can be pulled and handled, it will be done so that way by the vast majority of players. Pulling single group is slow and boring and gives tanks, healers, and DPS with not much to do because a single pack of mobs in most dungeons is just laughably easy.

[odioillatino]

You can do that, but saying it is the intended gameplay is just flat out false. Not to say pulling everything is the intended gameplay, because neither is really. But saying single group pulls is the default is not what 95%+ of the community agrees with. So long as as more than 1 group can be pulled and handled, it will be done so that way by the vast majority of players. Pulling single group is slow and boring and gives tanks, healers, and DPS with not much to do because a single pack of mobs in most dungeons is just laughably easy.

Just because the players do something in a way, doesn't mean that's the intended way.