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  1. #271
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    SamsaraTrickstar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Well I was curious so I decided to ask a GM in support chat about it. Sorry if the text is a little small, I didn't want to crop out any of the image.



    No way to read this.can you sun it up?
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  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Do I really need to go into my post history and pull up several quotes of mine? Have to waste one of my last posts on this.
    I mean, you’re the one who decided to double, triple, even quadruple down on being wrong. Just because some things in your opinion are one way or another doesn’t mean you are correct. Even if you try many times to twist what you said to change the narrative slightly enough for you to be 95% incorrect as opposed to 100%. You could always go back and read your old posts, same as we can, and know what you actually said
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  3. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    No way to read this.can you sun it up?
    Try right click -> Open Image in New Tab

    Sorry for the small size, I wanted to show that it was indeed the support site.

    edit: I re-uploaded but cropped better


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    Last edited by Xirean; 10-27-2021 at 01:10 PM.

  4. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    I mean, you’re the one who decided to double, triple, even quadruple down on being wrong. Just because some things in your opinion are one way or another doesn’t mean you are correct. Even if you try many times to twist what you said to change the narrative slightly enough for you to be 95% incorrect as opposed to 100%. You could always go back and read your old posts, same as we can, and know what you actually said
    I'm not wrong. I do not consider it a form of communication, I said it was griefing at the start and I still say it is griefing. The breadcrumbs are there from my earlier posts. It is a completely unecessary skill to be used; there is no need for it. If someone wants to communicate they can pull more, literally just pull more.

    Did you people not notice my use of exclamation marks? That's me being sarcastic. Should I have used more emojis to signify I was being sarcastic on certain points? Gifs? I guess I need to type /s after every post where I am, since apparently it isn't something that translates well over the internet. I brought up tanks griefing, because I think it is funny how touchy many players are over the subject. The tank can be pulled around (literally), but the minute they decide they aren't having any of it, and get them back with the "you pull it, you tank it" mentality, it's suddenly the end of the world. A tank with this mentality is the same as that of a healer rescuing the tank to "encourage" them to pull more, I'd say.

    My argument was always framed from the start as rescuing players into mobs. This is the post people replied to, aside from me initially referring to it as griefing. 'You pull it, you tank it', is brought up, because I equate one type of griefing with another type of griefing.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    It is griefing. That is not the purpose of rescue. This is forcing a playstyle on another player, just running ahead and pulling is one thing, but not pulling a player into mobs.
    This does not say pull forward, it says pull into mobs. That's how I framed it. Really though, I consider any use of rescue that isn't for it's intended purpose griefing, even if "communicating" to pull faster is the intent, it's just not bannable. Most things aren't, unless someone states their intent in the chat (which I pulled up an old post stating this), or rescues into danger. Just as one can't prove a tank is griefing either, unless they state what they did in chat. A tank doesn't have to blatantly turn off their tank stance, when someone else pulls. They can just not hit the adds that were pulled. Still, even if they did, it still can't be proven that it wasn't just some bad tank accidentally hitting off their tank stance.

    Rescue addressed, into mechanics:
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    (...) rescuing a tank into mobs will probably accomplish that purpose, and might even result in an MPK.
    Rescue addressed in general:
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    It's fairly simple. It's not a means of communication, it's a nuisance. I get players want to go fast, but unless you are a player speedrunning in the DF, and you think you need to shave off 2-3 seconds for the tank to get to the mobs, it's unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    EVEN IF they couldn't chat, rescue being used in this way is not a proper form of communication. It is a skill meant to save players from mechanics, NOT pull people into them.
    Again, even just pulling a player forward, is not a proper use of this skill either. The only fault of mine, is not addressing both points enough. Getting pulled into mechanics, and getting pulled forward alone as a supposed form of communication.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 10-27-2021 at 02:52 PM.

  5. #275
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Try right click -> Open Image in New Tab

    Sorry for the small size, I wanted to show that it was indeed the support site.

    edit: I re-uploaded but cropped better


    I am on a phone so I cant
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  6. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    I am on a phone so I cant
    Save the photo to gallery and zoom it over there.
    You can delete after anyways.
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    I am on a phone so I cant
    Check desktop version display in your browser, then zoom as much as you like.
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Try right click -> Open Image in New Tab

    Sorry for the small size, I wanted to show that it was indeed the support site.

    edit: I re-uploaded but cropped better


    This is who the representative is and you can't change my mind.

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