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    Quote Originally Posted by Eien713 View Post
    In that case, I'd say the advantages do sound unfair but I'm not willing to delve into that debate. I honestly don't care enough about parses to wanna die on this hill.



    It still gives you an advantage since a person can get distracted, can panic and forget stuff or mess up, etc. but a program doesn't. No one said Cactbot plays the game for you or makes it so mechanics don't matter or you don't have to pay attention, just that it gives an undeniable advantage by removing the possible human-error factor when it comes to making call-outs.
    So it simply does the job of a really good shot caller. The amount of errors I've seen in streams from really good shot callers has been pretty much zero, outside of them trolling. Quite literally you'd have no clue these things existed if someone didn't bring them up every now and then. I would in no way call that harmful particularly since SE's line has been harassment and forced use of these addons. As long as they actually stick with that the harm is virtually nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    So it simply does the job of a really good shot caller.

    This has explained ~5 times previously in this thread, but here's a summation of the points of why comparing Cactbot to a human shot-caller is incredibly disingenuous:

    Cactbot can :
    - Make eight, individual, unique callouts to eight different people simultaneously and instantly.
    - React with what is effectively a 0ms delay to mechanics
    - Accurately call certain mechanics that haven't even been telegraphed on the client yet.
    - Show a graphical list with exact countdowns to upcoming mechanics.
    - Never make a single mistake while doing all of this.


    How does it do all of this?

    By invasively reading obfuscated game-data directly out of memory, or via intercepting network traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    This has explained ~5 times previously in this thread, but here's a summation of the points of why comparing Cactbot to a human shot-caller is incredibly disingenuous:

    Cactbot can :
    - Make eight, individual, unique callouts to eight different people simultaneously and instantly.
    - React with what is effectively a 0ms delay to mechanics
    - Accurately call certain mechanics that haven't even been telegraphed on the client yet.
    - Show a graphical list with exact countdowns to upcoming mechanics.
    - Never make a single mistake while doing all of this.


    How does it do all of this?

    By invasively reading obfuscated game-data directly out of memory, or via intercepting network traffic.
    And you still wouldn't have any idea it existed if someone didn't see it. ACT has been around in FFXIV for 8 years, Cactbot for 4 years (2 expansions) so they are in no way new or something that has effected the game in some insidious negative way when it comes to the way people enjoy the game. No fights are made with it in mind. It is not updated fast enough to make a difference in world firsts. Anyone that requires it can be banned. Anyone that uses functions of it to harass someone can be banned. Get back to me when they start designing the game around it and they start caring about the race for world first.
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    Last edited by Nothv13; 10-27-2021 at 09:11 AM.