Can SQ-EN draw a line in the sand w/ 3rd Parties?

[yajnaji]

I know it.
You know it.
They know it.
EVERYBODY knows it.

This new "thing" will ruin the game (already started) the way it ruined the other mmo.

But for some god awful reason no one admits it... why? Is everyone in league with the trend of turning FFXIV into a e-sport game?! I called it many times, the new influx of players will ruin the game. It was better when it was a niche game and popularity WILL RUIN IT! Just log in, just do roulettes and you will see what I mean, the disease is in.

[LittleImp]

how many people that complain about cactbot being a thing has actually killed any of these bosses? always seems like it's people that haven't bothered even trying

I've hit rank 1 on my job in an ultimate fight, can't speak for anyone else in this thread. Hope that helps.

wouldn't call it an unfair advantage when literally anyone can install the same program in under a minute, and especially when it helps everyone achieve something together IN PVE, it's not like it's pvp or smth.

You could use the exact same argument to justify using literally any form of third party automation software for FFXIV.

who cares if it gives call outs

it's still on you, the player, to properly execute mechanics. it won't do that for you

There are many mechanics where observation and reading the tells makes up the majority of what it actually means to execute said mechanic. Reading tells and solving mechanics is an inherent part of executing them.

[Eien713]

wouldn't call it an unfair advantage when literally anyone can install the same program in under a minute, and especially when it helps everyone achieve something together IN PVE, it's not like it's pvp or smth.

Anyone? Have you forgotten that Play Station players exist?

[Saraide]

I know it.
You know it.
They know it.
EVERYBODY knows it.

This new "thing" will ruin the game (already started) the way it ruined the other mmo.

But for some god awful reason no one admits it... why? Is everyone in league with the trend of turning FFXIV into a e-sport game?! I called it many times, the new influx of players will ruin the game. It was better when it was a niche game and popularity WILL RUIN IT! Just log in, just do roulettes and you will see what I mean, the disease is in.

Ruin has found you at last. I'm sure this time the doomsayers are right, like they were right every time before.

[yajnaji]

Ruin has found you at last. I'm sure this time the doomsayers are right, like they were right every time before.

Elaborate? Or are you just spouting nonsense to pretend to be smart?
Also try to detail what those "times before" were. One by one.

[Packetdancer]

This new "thing" will ruin the game (already started) the way it ruined the other mmo.

It's not "new", though; these tools have been around for literal years.

Again, I don't like the automation portion of what people do with this, but despite that, I don't think it's an impending Doom scenario. (Or, as I guess the tools in question would say based on those earlier screenshots, "HEAL TO FULL NOW (OR DIE)!")

[Saraide]

Elaborate? Or are you just spouting nonsense to pretend to be smart?
Also try to detail what those "times before" were. One by one.

It would probably be quicker to list the games that nobody has called dead before.

[yajnaji]

It's not "new", though; these tools have been around for literal years.

Again, I don't like the automation portion of what people do with this, but despite that, I don't think it's an impending Doom scenario. (Or, as I guess the tools in question would say based on those earlier screenshots, "HEAL TO FULL NOW (OR DIE)!")

I was not referring to the tools, but to the, again, thing that's happening in FFXIV.

Again, everybody know what it is. But yeah, I'm the idiot, the mad man, don't listen to me.

But still I'm calling it. Of course I hope to the twelve I'm wrong.

[Enjuden]

It won't be used for world first cause there wouldn't be any created timelines for cactbot.

That is the most blatant lie I have ever read on this forum, and I've seen a lot. Are you seriously going to tell me that world first groups will not hire someone to code that specific timeline? Really? I guarantee you this will happen on the new Ultimate for world first prog.

XIVAlexander does a lot, and I do mean a lot of things that are good. But it's also a blatant third party cheat because the developers made the game so dysfunctional for people with medium to high latency. Zero animation lock for perfect triple weave (which you can never ever do normally), being able to tell exactly where melee range is on the screen always via a hud display, the ability to know exactly what to do years ahead of when the mechanic comes out. It's DBD if the developers of it were allowed to completely break the flow of the game itself. If you want an extreme example, you could double weave during Hypercharge with that program.

Don't be an apologist.

Edit - Slash through is different plug in/changed wording to not associate the two. Woops.

[Saraide]

That is the most blatant lie I have ever read on this forum, and I've seen a lot. Are you seriously going to tell me that world first groups will not hire someone to code that specific timeline? Really? I guarantee you this will happen on the new Ultimate.

Cactbot does a lot, and I do mean a lot of things that are good. But it's also a blatant third party cheat because the developers made the game so dysfunctional for people with medium to high latency. Zero animation lock for triple weave (which you can never ever do normally), being able to tell exactly where melee range is on the screen always via a hud display, the ability to know exactly what to do years ahead of when the mechanic comes out. It's DBD if the developers of it were allowed to completely break the flow of the game itself.

Don't be an apologist.

I think you are mixing in XIVAlexander (and maybe a few other plugins) there with cactbot. Cactbot is just the timers and the callouts. A world first party would have to create all the callout triggers themselves, that's literally them learning the fight. There is no homework they can copy from.