I'm gonna say it. cause no one else will.

[Semirhage]

Ikr? People want to have a job in which they can AFK and put 0 effort and if we find that lazy or bad design you're being rude, or you want to play a DPS. Give me a break.

That's because the unfortunate part about the "nice" "welcoming" FFXIV community that you're not supposed to talk about is, some of that "niceness" is anything but. FFXIV prizes bitchy Mean Girls passive aggression, blocking, silently kicking people, etc over actually discussing anything.

The "toxic casual" portion of the community doesn't want a discussion about designing healers well or what good design means. They want to go through dungeons with minimum effort. And if you don't, prepare for these forums to tell you you're not a "real healer". I've certainly heard it a dozen times.

Which is hilarious in its irony. Because it's coming from people who bitched and moaned about the role when it actually required dedication or practice to learn, but love it now that it requires neither. But *I* don't like healing.

[Mimilu]

I'm gonna say it cause no one else will.

Lilybell is a garbage skill.

Lilybell's okay. I think it would be better if it could be assigned to a partymember and activating when they take damage (like the tank) vs it going off when the caster gets hit. Also, its AoE should be 30 yalms so it isn't wasted when the party has to spread.

(Aesthetically, I think its too cutesy and is a bit on the gaudy-side. They built WHM up to be elegant and refined but then added this kawaii water heart with flowers on it.)

[rewd]

I'm gonna say it cause no one else will.

Lilybell is a garbage skill.

Why? It automatically heals for you so you can keep spamming Glare. Sounds awesome!

(Do I need a /s?)

[RinaB]

I'm on VictoriaLuv's side. It's so bad nowadays you'll have 2 dead tanks in and man and the healers are standing there dpsing while I'm trying to stay alive with second wind, blood for blood and eyes. Do your jobs before you complain about more dps spells because right now it's hard to find healers who even do the most basic mechanics let alone heal anyone. I main a dps to smash enemies down as quickly and optimally as possible. Tanks hold agro, position, soak damage etc. How come we have to do our jobs and you people not only can't lately but are arguing that you shouldn't have to? If your dps is boring go play blm?

[BaconBits]

I'm on VictoriaLuv's side. It's so bad nowadays you'll have 2 dead tanks in and man and the healers are standing there dpsing while I'm trying to stay alive with second wind, blood for blood and eyes. Do your jobs before you complain about more dps spells because right now it's hard to find healers who even do the most basic mechanics let alone heal anyone. I main a dps to smash enemies down as quickly and optimally as possible. Tanks hold agro, position, soak damage etc. How come we have to do our jobs and you people not only can't lately but are arguing that you shouldn't have to? If your dps is boring go play blm?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I'm on VictoriaLuv's side. It's so bad nowadays you'll have 2 dead tanks in and man and the healers are standing there dpsing while I'm trying to stay alive with second wind, blood for blood and eyes. Do your jobs before you complain about more dps spells because right now it's hard to find healers who even do the most basic mechanics let alone heal anyone. I main a dps to smash enemies down as quickly and optimally as possible. Tanks hold agro, position, soak damage etc.

And how often is this ‘so bad nowadays’?
1 out of 10 runs? 3 out of 10 runs? 5 out of 10 runs? 8 out of 10 runs?

Where are you finding those Glaroilfisis-bots? Send them to my side, I want to actually do my job for the role I picked.

[NobleWinter]

I hate it here.

[Drkdays]

Tanks are just as an essential role in XIV as healers are, except all healers do more damage with their 1 button than any tank does with its variety of buttons. You have your Main Class as Dark Knight, so would you support a "streamlining" of DRK's/tanks in general ability to do damage? Must you constantly be doing something with your hands? DRK and all tanks DPS rotation are fluff without purpose compared to healers, because we contribute more DPS than you do.

Clearly you never tried DRK before it's major changes. It HAS been streamlined. Threading Dark Arts into your rotation took a lot of work and it won't be missed.

And if you're holding still the entire fight as a tank you're doing it wrong. The game mechanics aren't that simple. Same goes for healers even if all they do is heal. Positioning is so important in this game, yet "some" healers want more actionbar distractions? Ridiculous.

[Nizzi]

Clearly you never tried DRK before it's major changes. It HAS been streamlined. Threading Dark Arts into your rotation took a lot of work and it won't be missed.

That's dodging my question and irrelevant to it. Do you support tanks having their DPS options becoming 1 or 2 buttons? Healers do more damage than you, so why do you get to have more actions than we do to accomplish less DPS?

[VictoriaLuv]

I'm on VictoriaLuv's side. It's so bad nowadays you'll have 2 dead tanks in and man and the healers are standing there dpsing while I'm trying to stay alive with second wind, blood for blood and eyes. Do your jobs before you complain about more dps spells because right now it's hard to find healers who even do the most basic mechanics let alone heal anyone. I main a dps to smash enemies down as quickly and optimally as possible. Tanks hold agro, position, soak damage etc. How come we have to do our jobs and you people not only can't lately but are arguing that you shouldn't have to? If your dps is boring go play blm?

someone actually agrees with me. these people want to destroy healer. all they have to do is make healer heal more. make sure healer has no down-time at all no one want dps skills. these people want to destroy the healer. they don't want a healer. they want there main tanks to die. cause healer to busy dpsing. cause to lazy cause a heal spell when it needed . this is issue most of these people troll other people on the forums. take there time attacking other players. people don't like me cause am agressive and tell it to it to them straight with no care to there feelings

we people who love healing love our job should stand up. say no to this wanting more dps skills isn't gonna fix healer. no forcing healer to actually heal or whole raid dies is important. implement dungeon boss world fates. even trash monsters with mechanic that do bloody tank busters. never designed to be black mages have 20 button rotation. seriously anyone who asking heals have new dps opinions really go play dps. let people who been healing sense arr do there thing