I'm gonna say it. cause no one else will.

[Grimoire-M]

That was really the point of my question, I can't imagine anyone honestly believing that adding 2 or 3 more skills or spells would be complex or overwhelming yet people seem to continue to describe adding DPS as being complex or overwhelming.

Because the people who think it is are often not experienced enough to realize when they can get away with it. They’ve never actually tried to push themselves to get to that point. They don’t math out how much one healing spell is worth and then use that to get a barometer on how much the rest of their entire kit heals. They don’t press cooldowns in a proactive attempt to solve problems before they happen. They don’t recognize when a mistake another player makes is small enough to not need to be fixed immediately or how to juggle their resources to maximize their ABCs on Glare spam. They don’t let players drop comfortably low enough so that they avoid wasting the potential crit on their heals.

That’s because this game doesn’t ask them to. They press one heal every 15 seconds and wait around if people outgear and know the fight. And as such they’re unprepared to actually do their jobs when it’s finally asked of them properly, regardless of whether it’s DPS or healing. And when they venture into content with appropriate challenge (Extreme trials) they are completely unprepared to do what is asked of them. Cause they haven’t been practicing as much as they should be elsewhere.

Healing is all about resource efficiency, the casual content we all choose to do is already tuned for the most basic and inefficient play patterns, and instead of using that familiarity and safety with casual fights to improve at XIV’s overall combat, they ask for WoW levels of healing when statistically speaking SE knows damned well they do not actually want that in practice. As such, the vets who do try to improve ask both for DPS options and healing kits to be made in a way that rewards synergy with the understanding they are strictly a bonus, not a requirement, in said casual content. And those same people are who get shot down as this same conversation loop happens over and over.

The new guys need a tutorial and to attempt extremes at endwalker’s endgame for at least a tier before complaining about content. They are already being catered to. The vets whether they want more healing or DPS already understand SE’s stance on keeping things simple for the new guys. They’re asking for more depth within the current framework. In an ideal world fights would slow down a bit, trim off their peaks slightly, amp up their sustained damage sources, and still ask healers to DPS sometimes, just with a few extra buttons and probably some Assize/TBN like bonuses that let them do both.

[Melorie]

You can watch the fight, support your team, chat with friends or your fc, or just enjoy the scenery. Theres so much amazing work that goes into the amazing world design that you never see because you are always just rush rush dps dps.

What do you even mean by supporting your team or "enjoy the scenery"? This is so vague and doesn't even make sense. Supporting your team is giving all you can and not standing still. I bet they don't want a support that is standing there doing nothing... Go and ask for explorable mode for every duty then instead of asking for everyone else to be bored, some people want to play the game.

[HyoMinPark]

See? That's the problem with the healer dps mentality. It's only a problem because you are expecting healers to dps. If we didn't have to dps and only focused on healing then it wouldn't be an issue. Healer dps is just creating problems when there doesn't have to be!

The issue with this is that the battle content in this game has never called for even 50% healing uptime. Even the hardest content in the game has healers dealing damage more than they are actually healing—when I cleared UCoB on AST, I had more casts of Malefic than I ever had of all of my healing spells combined. In an 18-minute long fight. And I was playing it super safe by the time we got to adds and Golden Bahamut.

The good healers would not complain if there was more stuff to heal. They have been begging for more stuff for heal for years now. Especially with ShB, because the healers got so many new and cool tools, but they are overkill for most content if you have a half-competent party. But the developers won’t add it because they also do not want to overwhelm the less skilled healers.

I have honestly never understood the choice some healers make to just stand around and do nothing when no one is taking damage. I’ve actually tried that in content before, and was bored out of my skull. It’s also a bit frustrating from the perspective of the group, since this game is all about teamwork, and we could clear the content much faster if everyone was pulling equal amounts of weight. I won’t lie and say that it doesn’t irritate me when I see a healer spamming Cure I on a tank when the tank is at 95% HP, or even worse, JUMPING or EMOTING while the other people are killing stuff.

You can watch the fight, support your team, chat with friends or your fc, or just enjoy the scenery. Theres so much amazing work that goes into the amazing world design that you never see because you are always just rush rush dps dps. Why do you have to be pressing buttons 100% of the time? Humans are adaptive and even if you are pressing buttons all the time you will get used to it and feel bored no matter it is 2.5s or 1s or 0.5s gcd. It's the up and down like a rollercoaster that keeps things exciting.

You standing around doing nothing is not “supporting your team”. And if you have time to chat with your friends or FC, get out of the dungeon and do that, then. I have no patience for people that feel they can partially AFK in an instance while the rest of their party carries them on their backs.

No other role is allowed to stand around and do nothing. Why do healers get this “special treatment”? People would get frustrated at a DPS or a tank if they decided to just “watch the fight” or “admire the scenery”. Healers are no different. They aren’t special roles that get to be some exception…

[ForteNightshade]

You can watch the fight, support your team, chat with friends or your fc, or just enjoy the scenery. Theres so much amazing work that goes into the amazing world design that you never see because you are always just rush rush dps dps. Why do you have to be pressing buttons 100% of the time? Humans are adaptive and even if you are pressing buttons all the time you will get used to it and feel bored no matter it is 2.5s or 1s or 0.5s gcd. It's the up and down like a rollercoaster that keeps things exciting.

By this logic, I guess DPS and Tanks can't enjoy the scenery or chitchat with their friends. They're too busy actually participating in the game instead of wasting their teammates' time by "supporting" them with /cheer

[Melorie]

No other role is allowed to stand around and do nothing. Why do healers get this “special treatment”? People would get frustrated at a DPS or a tank if they decided to just “watch the fight” or “admire the scenery”. Healers are no different. They aren’t special roles that get to be some exception…

Ikr? People want to have a job in which they can AFK and put 0 effort and if we find that lazy or bad design you're being rude, or you want to play a DPS. Give me a break.

[BaconBits]

So I heard spamming Medica 2 into Bee's Knees is a true combo.

[ty_taurus]

You can watch the fight, support your team, chat with friends or your fc, or just enjoy the scenery. Theres so much amazing work that goes into the amazing world design that you never see because you are always just rush rush dps dps. Why do you have to be pressing buttons 100% of the time? Humans are adaptive and even if you are pressing buttons all the time you will get used to it and feel bored no matter it is 2.5s or 1s or 0.5s gcd. It's the up and down like a rollercoaster that keeps things exciting.

I know right!? I feel the exact same way about driving. Why do I ALWAYS have to pay attention to the road? Sometimes I want to have a nice phone chat with my friends, watch the birds flying by, eat my lunch, shave my legs, do my taxes... etc. The world is such a beautiful place and we're always so focused on our next destination. When's the last time you've had a chance to really embrace the world around you instead of just looking back and forth around you for other cars or pedestrians? That's gets really boring after a while.

[inhaledcorn]

I'm tempted to believe lisaa is an alt account for our dear "friend" Victoria since they're basically the only one here who agrees with OP, and they have no post history other than what's posted in this thread.

Either that, or they're a really bad troll.

[Mimilu]

Why are you all taking VictoriaLuv serious?
They're either a really obvious, low-grade troll trying to provoke more healer drama or someone who's head is so up their butt they can't understand how the game is played and refuses to learn. Just let there threads die. >x>

[Silver-Strider]

I'm gonna say it cause no one else will.

Lilybell is a garbage skill.