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    Player VictoriaLuv's Avatar
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    Living Dead Is a Problem. should be removed or reworked.

    I do not know why yoshi-p is ok with this ability still in the game. yes I can talk about it. cause have all my healers 70-80 and my mostly of tanks around 60 range. to know. try my best when have dark knight in my party that never hope see them use it. cause its upset most worst ability in the game at this point. as far as tanking is concerned

    My Change to Living Dead

    Current living Dead -
    Grants the effect of Living Dead. When HP is reduced to 0 while under the effect of Living Dead, instead of becoming KO'd, your status will change to Walking Dead.

    Living Dead Duration: 10
    While under the effect of Walking Dead, most attacks will not lower your HP below 1. If, before the Walking Dead timer runs out, HP is 100% restored, the effect will fade. If 100% is not restored, you will be KO'd.
    Walking Dead Duration: 10


    My Living Dead - Upon activating Living Dead. you gain a shield equal to 100% of your life. however your HP will drop to 1. if the healers can heal you 100% of your health before the shield is consumed. withing living duration:15-18 seconds
    You be granted walking Dead: instantly restoring your MP 100% and making invurnable to most attacks up 8 seconds (instant death manic is removed from this ability)
    Additional effect : the next 3 spells you cast (spells) deal 10% damage or have 10% more sheild. each time you cast a spell a stack is removed

    this is big burst window offensive/defensive cooldown
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    Last edited by VictoriaLuv; 10-22-2021 at 10:07 PM.

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    1. This is insanely unbalanced. Stop tying defensive cooldowns, especially invulnerabilities, to linear damage increases. It encourages awful gameplay habits, you'll absolutely destroy the mana economy, making most openers even more cluttered and agonizing than they already are, and limits usages only for DPS. Why would the next three spells be augmented? Dark Knight DOESN'T USE SPELLS, except the incredibly weak AoE combo and Unmend, that you would never really use in single target. Hence why Enhanced Unmend is so dumb. This is a LD defensive nerf, since you would never use it optimally to defend from anything, only under openers, raid buffs and potions. Which means forcing a usage at 00:05, 06:05, and 12:05 optimally, with 5:05 and 10:05/11:05 being options depending on killtime, to maximize offensive usages over actually mitigating anything relevant outside of a coincidence, truly cementing it as a failure of a defensive button. I thought this was impossible for someone to do, make a version of LD that makes even less sense than the current one.

    2. Stop making topics and throwing every idea that comes into your head on the role forums. Lyth has made a perfectly good, reasonable, highly supported Living Dead thread, and we have a perfectly good, mostly-reasonable, highly supported gigantic DRK mega-thread as a containment sector for (bad) ideas like this. I don't think anyone wants to hear the opinion/rework/word salad of someone with no real experience in the job or role in regards to dictating changes, since it's not a productive conversation from the outset, and often introduce things that disrupt balance or don't make any sense in the design space.

    Stop it. You're flooding the boards. NA already has a problem with clutter, stop making it worse.
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    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    1. This is insanely unbalanced. Stop tying defensive cooldowns, especially invulnerabilities, to linear damage increases. It encourages awful gameplay habits, you'll absolutely destroy the mana economy, making most openers even more cluttered and agonizing than they already are, and limits usages only for DPS. Why would the next three spells be augmented? Dark Knight DOESN'T USE SPELLS, except the incredibly weak AoE combo and Unmend, that you would never really use in single target. Hence why Enhanced Unmend is so dumb. This is a LD defensive nerf, since you would never use it optimally to defend from anything, only under openers, raid buffs and potions. Which means forcing a usage at 00:05, 06:05, and 12:05 optimally, with 5:05 and 10:05/11:05 being options depending on killtime, to maximize offensive usages over actually mitigating anything relevant outside of a coincidence, truly cementing it as a failure of a defensive button. I thought this was impossible for someone to do, make a version of LD that makes even less sense than the current one.

    2. Stop making topics and throwing every idea that comes into your head on the role forums. Lyth has made a perfectly good, reasonable, highly supported Living Dead thread, and we have a perfectly good, mostly-reasonable, highly supported gigantic DRK mega-thread as a containment sector for (bad) ideas like this. I don't think anyone wants to hear the opinion/rework/word salad of someone with no real experience in the job or role in regards to dictating changes, since it's not a productive conversation from the outset, and often introduce things that disrupt balance or don't make any sense in the design space.

    Stop it. You're flooding the boards. NA already has a problem with clutter, stop making it worse.
    Yes they do use spells. what do you think salted earth is, abyss drain. flood of darkness. edge of darkness.

    these all deal unexpected damage . you need learn your job. before you start insulting people. you have offensive abilities that cost 3000 MP a shot. It may look physical but tell you this its nothing physical about them.

    Dark knight uses a lot dark magic in there kit. you don't know your job. specially when 85% of your the dark knight is offensive magic abilities. you only have 5-6 buttons that are physical damage. 3 button rotation. carve and spit. blood splitter and Quietus if you want to count Plunge be my guest

    anything else cost MP is magical by nature

    If dont know what tanking job your playing clearly not dark knight. second. what is full restore of MP is gonna get you do explain to me how that is overpowered. allowing couple more shots of edge/flood. big deal

    few more blackest nights. watch results only 3 casts total. clearly your playing dark knight wrong if not using your mp. thats magic points. aka magic damage aka spells.

    wait you think i meant like black mage no still magic damage. or maybe you prefer have really bad invur that really doesn't benefit your job what so ever


    how about stop being rude. no one forced you to read this topic or reply to it. this forum has policies you know what your doing borderline harness. flaming someone for personal clout. while trying make yourself look good. looking for reason to attack someone. nice ff14 communities. im surprised that forum devs. allow such attacks on people on the fours

    Objective of this new invur is to grant you a shield. while sacrificing your health. giving you enough time to be healed 100% while keeping shield active throu blackest night. instead of instant death.

    then rewarding you by allowing your flood/edge to deal more damage

    you wanna talk about game balance ok. what does dark knight have really? dark mind is useless. blood weapon needs a buff. dark knight is 85% offensive abilities and magics. with really crappy defensive cooldowns. outside the blackest nights

    yet they nerf delirium, don't touch living dead steel have blood weapon issue, dark mind still in the game. (fixed salted earth) thank you. allowed living shadow have an attack. as cool as living shadow is. still fails in comperision to what other tnaks are getting

    Dark Knights mains need an apology. do not even pretend you are own simply cause played job once or got it 80 never played it again. heaven on high is a thing sadly

    how about you people stop it. no one made you reply to these topics. hell ignore them completely. yes I want a class have offensive buff to invur when dark knight is 85% offensive abiltiies. really bad defensive cooldowns outside blackiest night

    I pay my sub like everyone else. and gonna post what I like. if dont like what i post good on you. but sorry but i'm gonna keep posting just because you say so. have nice day. and do something about angry issue will you. even if ideas or bad or good. instead of spending that energy in flaming someone on the forum making suggestions. how bout using that energy come up with your own ideas. instead of being toxic. pretty much rest of you too seems like come at me like train. hey i welcome it. make all nasty rude replies you want too. bring it. but know they have no effect and gonna keep doing what am doing. at least im trying. what do you do really? pretend to know something bout dark knight and you don't you. but you don't know single thing about there lore. or background or how to pull out the max you can do. if want pull out that i only have level70 and you have higher one be my guest. see how fair that get you.
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    Last edited by VictoriaLuv; 10-23-2021 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
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    Salted earth, Abyssal drain and Flood/Edge of shadow have the category of Ability on they tooltips, only Unmend, Unleash and Stalwart soul have the category of Spell just to let you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    Salted earth, Abyssal drain and Flood/Edge of shadow have the category of Ability on they tooltips, only Unmend, Unleash and Stalwart soul have the category of Spell just to let you know.
    still conserted magic damage btw or unexpected damage be correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    still conserted magic damage btw or unexpected damage be correct
    Edge of Darkness <-

    Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 350.

    Carve and Spit < -

    Delivers a threefold attack with a potency of 450.

    one is physical attack the other is magical one yes both are abilities one of them actually cost mp. dark knight evolves around mp. rotation the invur i made makes it to were dark knight is reward max mp if the healer can heal them up to 100% before shield pops off . granting them damage increase to mp cost ability up 3 stacks thats 3 abiltiies

    10k mana thats 3 uses of those spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    still conserted magic damage btw or unexpected damage be correct
    The type of damage they do is irrelevant, they are only 3 types of skills in this game:

    - Weaponskills: GCD skills that are affected by the skill speed stat
    - Spells: GCD skills that are affected by spell speed stat
    - Abilitys: skills that arent affected by the GCD

    so it's doesnt matter how you wanna call one skill or another, a spell is a GCD skill that works with spell speed and the only categorized skills as spells on DRK are Unmend, Unleash and Stalwart soul so i recomend you use the oficial terminology to expres your ideas better and avoid unnecesary discussions like this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    ...you need learn your job. before you start insulting people.


    Dark Knights mains need an apology. do not even pretend you are own simply cause played job once or got it 80 never played it again. heaven on high is a thing sadly

    what do you do really? pretend to know something bout dark knight and you don't you. but you don't know single thing about there lore. or background or how to pull out the max you can do. if want pull out that i only have level70 and you have higher one be my guest. see how fair that get you.

    Sorry, I can’t hear you over my triple legend, and the fact that you haven’t bothered leveling up most jobs to 80 at this point. Please go touch grass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkweh View Post
    Sorry, I can’t hear you over my triple legend, and the fact that you haven’t bothered leveling up most jobs to 80 at this point. Please go touch grass.
    Totally unrelated to w/e ur arguing over. Why is them "not bothering" to level everything to 80 a bad thing? And then why do they need to touch grass if they have played less already by not leveling everything to 80, they are more likely to have touched said grass than you if you 80'd everything? Leveling every job to 80 is not mandatory to be allowed to comment on the jobs you play o.0 I have everything at 80 but going forward unless there is another mount tied to all jobs at 90 I am just gonna ignore DRK and not level it. The job sucks rn and will continue to suck for me in EW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Totally unrelated to w/e ur arguing over. Why is them "not bothering" to level everything to 80 a bad thing? And then why do they need to touch grass if they have played less already by not leveling everything to 80, they are more likely to have touched said grass than you if you 80'd everything? Leveling every job to 80 is not mandatory to be allowed to comment on the jobs you play o.0 I have everything at 80 but going forward unless there is another mount tied to all jobs at 90 I am just gonna ignore DRK and not level it. The job sucks rn and will continue to suck for me in EW.
    Victoria has a history of displaying a distinct lack of knowledge on whatever they post about, and instead of accepting that they're wrong they insist that they're right and they 100% know exactly what they're talking about. It's 100% related to the topic at hand that they don't have much to 80, since they claim such an intimate knowledge of every job they post about.

    The touch grass comment is in regards to them angrily flooding the forums with multiple threads on the same subject whenever they're disagreed with. This has been going on for nearly a month. We're fed up. They're spamming, threatening forum bans, allegedly making alts to agree with themselves, and generally making a nuisance of themselves.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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