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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Ahh yeah I can see that. I stopped playing anything close to seriously after Legion so I guess maybe it just wasn't as bad yet then? Lol or the game's other issues were just too glaring for me to notice at the time idk
    Anyway my only problems with the cash shop here are that there are mounts that aren't account wide and outfits that aren't dyeable. And food that can be consumed. Not great imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Ahh yeah I can see that. I stopped playing anything close to seriously after Legion so I guess maybe it just wasn't as bad yet then?
    WoW is straight up p2w now, but it's mostly a side effect of bad game design left unmended. There's no character progression outside of what new powercreep gear is in the latest patch. During the leadup to the latest expansion (Shadowlands), you could create a brand new character and get max level + some of the best gear in all of like 3-5 days of casual play. And that's a conservative estimate, a neckbeard could do it in one day.

    You take a break from WoW for one patch, your character is worse than some noob who played for (literally) less than a week. They've done it like that for a while. It's a rat race for the cheese, gear on a stick. People played it anyway, maybe they enjoy the content and the journey regardless. Over the last few years the player culture seems to have caught up with it and the fact WoW tokens can be purchased with real money and sold ingame. An economy sort of developed where everyone now buys and sells carries. Because anyone can get the best gear, a noob can get max level in a few days and tag along to a raid, lots of groups will let him come if he pays. There is no other progression, he's already made it, he's right in the latest content getting the best gear drops.

    Nothing is gated if you have the gold. And you can buy the gold with real money through the WoW token, it's perfectly allowed. So...

    FFXIV is not immune to this but it has character progression outside of just "get catchup gear, then go get newest gear". It has MSQ, multiple jobs to level, side content and such. It also has RMT banned.
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    Last edited by _Pigzig; 10-22-2021 at 09:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post
    FFXIV is not immune to this but it has character progression outside of just "get catchup gear, then go get newest gear". It has MSQ, multiple jobs to level, side content and such. It also has RMT banned.
    THIS right here.

    Not that I'd enjoy (or willing to) go through WoW's soulless text wall quests and goofy cutscenes again, but a lot of the time in FFXIV I'm messing around in New Game+ Main Story or Side Quest arcs on my high or max level Jobs to see the story again and utterly obliterate annoying characters/villains for laughs.

    Or catching up on new lower level side content that I haven't done yet because it's actually worth experiencing most of the time. It doesn't feel like a waste of time unlike in WoW.
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    Last edited by ArthurATDayne; 10-22-2021 at 09:30 AM.