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    The cash shop can never ever get the same hate as wow shop...cause we don't sell tokens. if Yoshi-P can keep tokens from the cash shop then we should be fine. No dumb and toxic garbage like WoW. Tokens have utterly ruined that game. I do not think Yoshi will let that happen here. He has learned alot playing WoW; The good and the bad.

    There are some things we can pick up from them that is good. The token along with Toxicness is not one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksummoner View Post
    The cash shop can never ever get the same hate as wow shop...cause we don't sell tokens. if Yoshi-P can keep tokens from the cash shop then we should be fine. No dumb and toxic garbage like WoW. Tokens have utterly ruined that game. I do not think Yoshi will let that happen here. He has learned alot playing WoW; The good and the bad.

    There are some things we can pick up from them that is good. The token along with Toxicness is not one of them.
    I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone speak this badly of tokens. The heck happened since I quit lol?? Most people I've talked to loved them. But I guess I knew a bunch of people with enough gold to basically play the game free forever so??? Is that it???

    I'd say Blizzard's other immensely questionable design and development choices had far more to do with ruining that game than any cash shop decision they've ever made
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone speak this badly of tokens. The heck happened since I quit lol?? Most people I've talked to loved them. But I guess I knew a bunch of people with enough gold to basically play the game free forever so??? Is that it???

    I'd say Blizzard's other immensely questionable design and development choices had far more to do with ruining that game than any cash shop decision they've ever made
    Not sure who you talked to but everyone myself included hate the wow token.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Not sure who you talked to but everyone myself included hate the wow token.
    Wild. The friends I talked to loved it because it meant they never had to actually spend a dime on the game anymore lmao
    I was totally ambivalent toward it myself. I wasn't gonna buy any with cash or gold so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Wild. The friends I talked to loved it because it meant they never had to actually spend a dime on the game anymore lmao
    I was totally ambivalent toward it myself. I wasn't gonna buy any with cash or gold so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    I recall hearing some complaints that it has become more difficult to passively farm gold since it was added, basically trying to nudge more players towards buying them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Wild. The friends I talked to loved it because it meant they never had to actually spend a dime on the game anymore lmao
    I was totally ambivalent toward it myself. I wasn't gonna buy any with cash or gold so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    It started becoming hated because people realized the problem with the following:

    Blizzard bans real money sales for carries and boosting, but not with gold
    Wow token gives you gold, for real money, but the real money is going to blizzard, so boosting = okay if you're giving US the money
    It's basically the definition of pay to win
    People only seem to have realized this recently so wow tokens are hated by a good amount of people now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone speak this badly of tokens.
    I paid my sub + expac access through token from their inception in WoD to BfA. So, my initial relationship with them was pure love. What happened was two fold of: buying carries from selling tokens and using those clears for quick access to content. Made worse (from what I have observed through fascination) by locking progression behind time consuming grinds. Grinds easily bypassed by a paid carry. I can see where this love went to hell easily now.
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    You know what is funny I had enough gold to play WoW for free via tokens for game time for at least 10 more years. I still walked away from the game 3 years ago and never looked back. The game wasn't worth the price even at free for me to continue playing. Yes I was one of them that played WoW almost from the beginning of the game.
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