Endwalker Healer Media Tour NDA Lifted

[GrimGale]

Here we go again. SMH. I can already see it now. 2 more years of vet healers flooding the forums about how healers only have 1 dps nuke and how the devs don’t care to understand healers blah blah. Heard it all before.

I’m not saying your thoughts aren’t well placed but Yoshi P has now tripled down on how he wants healers to play. Can people just seriously get over it now? They obviously not bending over like they did for male viera.

>community asked for Male viera
they gave male viera
>community asked for Monk fix
they gave monk fix
>community asked for Summoner fix
they gave summoner fix

You're not really good at discouraging us. Clearly we need to get loud enough.

[Feidam]

God forbid healers actually be fun to play. Will Sylphies ever not be bewildered by the unfathomably complex idea that Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare Glare isn't fun design?

There are a lot of folks that love the healers. It could be their design just doesn’t suit you, but to many it does. I play scholar as my healer. I won’t lie I miss the dot healer from ARR and HW, just like I miss my dot mage summoner, but it’s not coming back. They have said so repeatedly. We either work within the confines of the design or we don’t play the healer. Personally, I like both. I would prefer they up the HPS required so that healers had to manage MP more, but that’s not gonna happen either. Still enjoy healing. And love that I can trade off with buddy who prefer heals to switch it up. However, he might have to dps this expansion. Loving the theme of the sage.

[SweetPete]

>community asked for Male viera
they gave male viera
>community asked for Monk fix
they gave monk fix
>community asked for Summoner fix
they gave summoner fix

You're not really good at discouraging us. Clearly we need to get loud enough.

Discourage? Not at all. I feel you guys pain. I’ve been wanting healers to do more too but it’s just not a winnable battle. Now Yoshi P has tripled down on it. People been wanting viera since HW, Summoners been asking for a rework since 2.0. Can’t really use that as and excuse. Monk they just messed up in shadowbringers so it was an easy fix.

I guess if you wanna waste your time and complain then do it but I just don’t see the devs changing their minds. Yoshi P explained it already. Basically what we have now is what we will always have.

[SweetPete]

There are a lot of folks that love the healers. It could be their design just doesn’t suit you, but to many it does. I play scholar as my healer. I won’t lie I miss the dot healer from ARR and HW, just like I miss my dot mage summoner, but it’s not coming back. They have said so repeatedly. We either work within the confines of the design or we don’t play the healer. Personally, I like both. I would prefer they up the HPS required so that healers had to manage MP more, but that’s not gonna happen either. Still enjoy healing. And love that I can trade off with buddy who prefer heals to switch it up. However, he might have to dps this expansion. Loving the theme of the sage.

Preach. Can’t beat them so join them lol.

[GrimGale]

Discourage? Not at all. I feel you guys pain. I’ve been wanting healers to do more too but it’s just not a winnable battle. Now Yoshi P has tripled down on it. People been wanting viera since HW, Summoners been asking for a rework since 2.0. Can’t really use that as and excuse. Monk they just messed up in shadowbringers so it was an easy fix.

I guess if you wanna waste your time and complain then do it but I just don’t see the devs changing their minds. Yoshi P explained it already. Basically what we have now is what we will always have.

Great! I am glad we agree.

[Feidam]

>community asked for Male viera
they gave male viera
>community asked for Monk fix
they gave monk fix
>community asked for Summoner fix
they gave summoner fix

You're not really good at discouraging us. Clearly we need to get loud enough.

They gave summoner fix because their design hit it’s limit otherwise odds are they wouldn’t have changed. Male viera is a race not a design philosophy for how a role operates and monk has had issues from the beginning too. I would not draw those as direct comparisons, imo. The healer situation while unpopular with a vocal subset of the population doesn’t appear to be the bulk of healers. It’s a bit different.

[GrimGale]

They gave summoner fix because their design hit it’s limit otherwise odds are they wouldn’t have changed. Male viera is a race not a design philosophy for how a role operates and monk has had issues from the beginning too. I would not draw those as direct comparisons, imo. The healer situation while unpopular with a goal subset doesn’t appear to be the bulk of healers. It’s a bit different.

To me it seems like something a part of the community wants. And has strong arguments to want it to be so. Maybe we're not enough to convice the devs, maybe we'll be enough in the future? Clearly, they won't pay attention to us if we stop now.

[Semirhage]

There are a lot of folks that love the healers. It could be their design just doesn’t suit you, but to many it does. I play scholar as my healer. I won’t lie I miss the dot healer from ARR and HW, just like I miss my dot mage summoner, but it’s not coming back. They have said so repeatedly. We either work within the confines of the design or we don’t play the healer. Personally, I like both. I would prefer they up the HPS required so that healers had to manage MP more, but that’s not gonna happen either. Still enjoy healing. And love that I can trade off with buddy who prefer heals to switch it up. However, he might have to dps this expansion. Loving the theme of the sage.

Those people are absolutely free to be wrong.

Pressing one button over and over again is awful, horrible, wretchedly bad game design. And I'll call it what it is until and unless it stops being the case. I swapped to DPS this expansion, and nothing I saw during the live letter has changed my switch.

I enjoy healing in games. I don't in this one, because it's insultingly boring. And if Sylphies are giddy about the fact that an entire role is especially designed around their own personal brand of laziness to the exclusion of players like me, that says a heck of a lot about their hypocrisy when they whine about meeeeeean vet healers.

[Feidam]

To me it seems like something a part of the community wants. And has strong arguments to want it to be so. Maybe we're not enough to convice the devs, maybe we'll be enough in the future? Clearly, they won't pay attention to us if we stop now.

It is what a part of the community wants, definitely. Hell, I would not be upset if it happened. However, I am also willing to acknowledge what I want doesn’t align with their design or metrics. Just like loving the ARR/HW summoner didn’t align with a large portion of players, dots never do apparently. I mean they gave their most clear answer to date on this issue with the live letter. At a minimum, it is set in stone for the expansion, but I suspect this is just the way it will be. They acknowledged what the vocal subset has been wanting and said no. The like and other like the it was in 5.0 and this their design going forward.

[Mortex]

If I may clarify...

Yes, it's n°1 purpouse is : use on CD for damage
However, admitting you work with your co-healer in raid to heal damage... Assize actually often come at moment where you'd have to heal.
Knowing you'll have this 400 pot aoe healing ressource no matter what feels great.

So yes, you're not using it "for the heal", but since it's attached to it, it actually does what it's meant to do.

So does astro for free and more heal. Now even more heal ogcds on 60 second cooldown timer you better get a strong as hell 1 key on your keyboard so you don’t break it by hitting malefic a entire expansion too hard. Maybe they try that in a package, they gonna sell you ff 14 keyboards cheaper after breaking yours every raid tier. Maybe give the 1 key a printing having the word healer responsibility crossed out so the new healer player don’t feel frightened at all must be spooky using more then 2 buttons in a game with 99.9 downtime. I mean I could watch Netflix in this time or make a coffee and also finish this one cool book.