Mr Happy Interview with Yoshida: Glare Mages

[Rika007]

Not shocked. This is not gonna change until people just stop playing the role. Despite the amount of newbies who flock to the role I still know plenty of veteran healers who keep gaining the job (my partner included) because it's what they love based on aesthetics. While the casual player balloons the healer numbers plenty, there is still plenty of healers filling out spots in raid statics, mount farms, and all other end game content. Until those duty finder looking for is permanently on healer for all roulettes, until raid teams start struggling to find players to do healing during progression, this attitude from the dev team will not change, because in their mind the massive amount of healers out there still doing endgame content as healers cant all just be casuals.

Look at 5.0 MCH. 4.0 BRD. 5.1 NIN. 5.4-6.0 MNK. Significant reworks only happen when players STOP playing a job (or if your Summoner). The numbers have to dwindle so much that it forces the dev team to finally address the problem and look at feedback. And the overtly casual players don't give feedback. So instead they turn to the veteran player base. Sometimes it doesn't match up to the player bases ideas for it (5.0 MCH), but sometimes it's a flawless dream of what vets were looking for (4.0 BRD).

But this is more then just one job that players are looking for changes on. It's a whole damn role. So veteran healers, if you want this to be changed, vote with your job choices. Stop playing the role. Let SE see how the numbers look after that and see if they are then so willing to discount your opinion.

[Semirhage]

Not shocked. This is not gonna change until people just stop playing the role. Despite the amount of newbies who flock to the role I still know plenty of veteran healers who keep gaining the job (my partner included) because it's what they love based on aesthetics. While the casual player balloons the healer numbers plenty, there is still plenty of healers filling out spots in raid statics, mount farms, and all other end game content. Until those duty finder looking for is permanently on healer for all roulettes, until raid teams start struggling to find players to do healing during progression, this attitude from the dev team will not change, because in their mind the massive amount of healers out there still doing endgame content as healers cant all just be casuals.

Look at 5.0 MCH. 4.0 BRD. 5.1 NIN. 5.4-6.0 MNK. Significant reworks only happen when players STOP playing a job (or if your Summoner). The numbers have to dwindle so much that it forces the dev team to finally address the problem and look at feedback. And the overtly casual players don't give feedback. So instead they turn to the veteran player base. Sometimes it doesn't match up to the player bases ideas for it (5.0 MCH), but sometimes it's a flawless dream of what vets were looking for (4.0 BRD).

But this is more then just one job that players are looking for changes on. It's a whole damn role. So veteran healers, if you want this to be changed, vote with your job choices. Stop playing the role. Let SE see how the numbers look after that and see if they are then so willing to discount your opinion.

We did it last expansion. There are too many Sylphies who love one-button spam jobs. Vet healers are outvoted- the FFXIV toxic "I only want to HEAL!" casual "you don't pay my sub" fanbase is much larger than its logging endgame raiders. You want an engaging job? That's for DPS and tanks. You want an engaging healer? Yoshida just told us that ain't gonna happen.

[MellowMink]

Props to the interviewer for directly asking; shame that the response is disappointing though.

[Rika007]

We did it last expansion. There are too many Sylphies who love one-button spam jobs. Vet healers are outvoted- the FFXIV toxic "I only want to HEAL!" casual "you don't pay my sub" fanbase is much larger than its logging endgame raiders. You want an engaging job? That's for DPS and tanks. You want an engaging healer? Yoshida just told us that ain't gonna happen.

You say that and yet in every static, every savage weekly party finder clear I joined, every mount farm I was in, it was never the healers that were what we struggled to fill. It was the tanks and shockingly enough the ranged of the DPS that I always found to be wanting on. There are veteran healers I've played with since ARR who can't stand the role now but KEEP PLAYING IT even now, and are saying they may still hold their spots on statics in endwalker even though nothing excites them about the job.

The overtly casual players don't fill these positions. The vets do. They are the ones who give the most constructive feedback, but that feedback will never be listened to if they keep enabling the devs decision making.

[Acece]

You say that and yet in every static, every savage weekly party finder clear I joined, every mount farm I was in, it was never the healers that were what we struggled to fill. It was the tanks and shockingly enough the ranged of the DPS that I always found to be wanting on. There are veteran healers I've played with since ARR who can't stand the role now but KEEP PLAYING IT even now, and are saying they may still hold their spots on statics in endwalker even though nothing excites them about the job.

The overtly casual players don't fill these positions. The vets do. They are the ones who give the most constructive feedback, but that feedback will never be listened to if they keep enabling the devs decision making.

I mean maybe, my static has been looking for a healer for a long time so I have to fill in. I started to practice e12s and almost all the whms I co heal with medica 2 after every mech, don't use cds, and also don't know mechanics. I think most healers filling in pf's these days are newer healers that started recently. It happens so often that I just started to heal because there are so many bad healers out there even at e12s.

[Absurdity]

We did it last expansion. There are too many Sylphies who love one-button spam jobs. Vet healers are outvoted- the FFXIV toxic "I only want to HEAL!" casual "you don't pay my sub" fanbase is much larger than its logging endgame raiders. You want an engaging job? That's for DPS and tanks. You want an engaging healer? Yoshida just told us that ain't gonna happen.

As Rika said, the Sylphies don't matter in this case, since they never do anything harder than roulettes anyway.
We're significantly outnumbered by people who love mindless 1-3 button spam as long as it has flashy blinking lights attached to it, in every single role.

But veterans are what is still filling all those ex and savage parties, despite them absolutely hating their job, this needs to stop.

[HappyHubris]

Not shocked. This is not gonna change until people just stop playing the role. Despite the amount of newbies who flock to the role I still know plenty of veteran healers who keep gaining the job (my partner included) because it's what they love based on aesthetics. While the casual player balloons the healer numbers plenty, there is still plenty of healers filling out spots in raid statics, mount farms, and all other end game content. Until those duty finder looking for is permanently on healer for all roulettes, until raid teams start struggling to find players to do healing during progression, this attitude from the dev team will not change, because in their mind the massive amount of healers out there still doing endgame content as healers cant all just be casuals.

Look at 5.0 MCH. 4.0 BRD. 5.1 NIN. 5.4-6.0 MNK. Significant reworks only happen when players STOP playing a job (or if your Summoner). The numbers have to dwindle so much that it forces the dev team to finally address the problem and look at feedback. And the overtly casual players don't give feedback. So instead they turn to the veteran player base. Sometimes it doesn't match up to the player bases ideas for it (5.0 MCH), but sometimes it's a flawless dream of what vets were looking for (4.0 BRD).

But this is more then just one job that players are looking for changes on. It's a whole damn role. So veteran healers, if you want this to be changed, vote with your job choices. Stop playing the role. Let SE see how the numbers look after that and see if they are then so willing to discount your opinion.

I don't think that any level of avoidance will create healer changes. They're clearly terrified of the possibility of healers leaving due to challenge, even if it's at the cost of a very slim group on progression content. There are enough people out there that demand the latest glamours and mounts but would struggle to heal through demanding content with an echo...