Pulling wall to wall isn't fast enough?

[Fyrebrand]

Go read SillyCrow's original post in this thread, I beg of you.

I did. It was based AF.

Who the heck are you to say that I don't wait for people in cutscenes/need to brb?

Oh, I'm sorry, so you do wait for other players to do their cutscenes?

The argument I was making was that intentionally letting someone die is griefing

When all the group members are ready to play, yeah, it totally would be. But if people are not ready to engage the boss and you refuse to wait, you aren't part of the implied contract of group play. You have willingly waived your rights to our assistance. You can't refuse to be a team player, and expect the team to have your back.

I wait for people in cutscenes, I wait for people who need to brb.

Okay, amazing! Sounds like you are doing the right thing, then! Except, I feel like you only wait if there is some condition at play...

However at the same time I will join the early-puller, because I'm not bothered by it.

Huh? But I thought you waited for people...? So, you don't wait if someone else decides for you to not wait? You don't have any agency? Or, you're just waiting for someone else's bad behaviour to give you a convenient excuse so that at least you're not the only one being bad? Or, you are willing to wait unless the person who rushes ahead is a tank, so you are protected if you decide to abandon the newbie and go ahead...? Sounds like you just do what is convenient for you.

I'm not bothered when people pull while I'm in a cutscene... By the way, I primarily play DPS.

You are free to enjoy the game in your own way and not care about whatever it is you don't care about. But you don't get to dictate what other players should care about or spend time on, based on your own feelings. Again, the cutscenes are in the game. You can't dispute that. You can't hand-wave it away and say "the devs shouldn't have put them there." You can't pretend a player is griefing or playing the game wrong, by allowing the game to happen as designed. All you can do is tell us how impatient you are, how you're not willing to do good by others, how you think your time is worth more than ours, and make up fake dungeon rules you invented about how we all have to skip as much content as possible to cut run time. It's all a bunch of baloney, and nobody's buying it.

[Sebazy]

You are free to enjoy the game in your own way and not care about whatever it is you don't care about. But you don't get to dictate what other players should care about or spend time on, based on your own feelings. Again, the cutscenes are in the game. You can't dispute that. You can't hand-wave it away and say "the devs shouldn't have put them there." You can't pretend a player is griefing or playing the game wrong, by allowing the game to happen as designed. All you can do is tell us how impatient you are, how you're not willing to do good by others, how you think your time is worth more than ours, and make up fake dungeon rules you invented about how we all have to skip as much content as possible to cut run time. It's all a bunch of baloney, and nobody's buying it.

Psst, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but the game is more than happy to allow a group to pull whilst an individual is in a cutscene. If the group as a whole is ready and capable of getting on with the boss without that person, the game allows for it.

You can't sit there and claim that your rules apply to one side of the argument but not the other. Your rules are every bit as fake so get off the high horse.

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But you don't get to dictate what other players should care about or spend time on, based on your own feelings.

Right back atcha. You're so blinded by your self-righteousness that you can't see what a hypocrite you are.