"gogogo" might make me quit this game.

[Yuella]

I have a solution. Scale the xp reward based on time required to complete the dungeon up to 30 minutes. If the dungeon takes 30 minutes, you get 100% of the xp. if it takes 15 minutes, you get 50% of the xp. So if you get a tank that pulls small and takes 30 minutes, you will be compensated with more xp. No more complaining.

[aveyond-dreams]

Why should we reward players who don't know how to play their role properly with more exp?

[Snorky]

I think this thread has been gone off topic

[Endariel]

I have a solution. Scale the xp reward based on time required to complete the dungeon up to 30 minutes. If the dungeon takes 30 minutes, you get 100% of the xp. if it takes 15 minutes, you get 50% of the xp. So if you get a tank that pulls small and takes 30 minutes, you will be compensated with more xp. No more complaining.

But why would you punish players that perform good? What?
"How dare they to play better than me"

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I have yet to see someone get banned for letting a dps that early pulled a boss die. In fact if you do that in a raid the DPS would be considered a hard griefer and get booted instantly if they don’t apologize. Just because dungeons are lol content doesn’t change the fact that DPS shouldn’t be pulling bosses. If you do that you are at the mercy of the tank being chill about it.

You have to hit one button to take aggro. Quit being lazy and egotistical, do your job and get the run over with. Going on a power trip just wastes literally everyone's time, including yours.

I mean, to be fair, if some sprout is watching a cutscene and someone else pulls, I'm 100% leaving them to tank the boss for a few seconds, if they even survive that long.

(also partially related but 15 seconds is an awfully short window of time considering there are several cutscenes that are well over a minute long)

That ain't excusable either. People get ported into the boss room at this point, so it's a nonissue most of the time. Quit making excuses to not do your job.

Oh my God Kaoru, you can't just tell a tank to do their job! Don't you know that's like, toxic and stuff?

Sad part is, most people genuinely think asking for basic competency and someone to perform their job properly is toxic. It's ridiculous and the entire reason a lot of good players are basically refusing to do content with randoms anymore, which is pulling many good tanks and healers from the queues.

Maybe once people are struggling to finish anything because the tank can't even survive single pulls and the healer is running out of MP curebotting to no avail, they'll wake up.

Until then, I'll be doing most of my 4-man content with NPCs who do their job and don't whine about inane things.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

Yes but now you reward bad play. The small pulls and take it easy is good when new people are in. But if all are people 5hat run it for the 100 time why punish then.

[MilkieTea]

I have a solution. Scale the xp reward based on time required to complete the dungeon up to 30 minutes. If the dungeon takes 30 minutes, you get 100% of the xp. if it takes 15 minutes, you get 50% of the xp. So if you get a tank that pulls small and takes 30 minutes, you will be compensated with more xp. No more complaining.

No, actually.

[Leigaon]

I have a solution. Scale the xp reward based on time required to complete the dungeon up to 30 minutes. If the dungeon takes 30 minutes, you get 100% of the xp. if it takes 15 minutes, you get 50% of the xp. So if you get a tank that pulls small and takes 30 minutes, you will be compensated with more xp. No more complaining.

I don't know how it would benefit someone who is already at maxed XP. Or that XP is very easy to come by. So the time it would take for you to get 100% XP vs 50%, in this example would be about 15 minutes. Other content could be done that would generate more XP in less the time. I would think that people would still pull as much as possible. (which should be done..pull away if you can.)

Someone mentioned not wanting to take the enjoyment out of the mass pulling for others..I guess those people are easily entertained by flashy lights..like dangling keys in front of a baby!

I've never found any enjoyment pulling all the way to the wall (not that I don't do it. After you do it a few times get comfy with it, it really doesn't matter..but it's not ..fun...) and have everyone go all flashy to the point that my cat now has epilepsy. Remember, for some these dungeons are for XP. For others they're just another roadblock to get through so they can complete their dailies or getting a sticker for kloe. I'm sure there's other examples.

The people who need XP will eventually get to the same mindset, just takes time. As long as you're trying to improve and the people you're with try to help you get there. I say help b/c yelling at someone or getting upset over a single dungeon run in a video game doesn't help anyone.

A few nights ago I went into a level 50 dungeon on my NIN for XP. The DRK was 80 so not there for XP..great glamour but started pulling groups of 3. Eventually with the roaming mobs and the healer saying they can pull more the tank started pulling more mobs. As a DPS at that point, my part is to make sure that what is pulled dies fast..as it should at level 50.

It wasn't full wall pulls but it went from 3 to half way there. There was one person who got upset, and it added a bit of flavor to the run that the nagging person died being pushed off the edge while complaining. Little treats like those tow things..make the run for me. I hope the tank continues to grow and pulls away next roulette. I hope the person who got upset gets a hold of their life and realize there's a better way of helping people, IF they want to be helped.

[Ashpd]

Ok, bye o/

[Jaelommiss]

I have a solution. Scale the xp reward based on time required to complete the dungeon up to 30 minutes. If the dungeon takes 30 minutes, you get 100% of the xp. if it takes 15 minutes, you get 50% of the xp. So if you get a tank that pulls small and takes 30 minutes, you will be compensated with more xp. No more complaining.

How about we do it the other way to give players an incentive to do their best? Give full rewards (XP, tomestones, etc.) for a 30 min run and a bonus 1% for every 20 secs below that, up to a bonus 45% at 15 mins.

While we're at it let's add a reward based on personal performance. A 1% boost on rewards for everything above 50th percentile dps should be sufficient.