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    Xaruko_Nexume's Avatar
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    Xaruko Solo
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    Seraph
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    One of the problems with going slow is that fighting 3 enemies is boring for everyone. It's boring for the DPS, who don't get to destroy an army of enemies and will probably end up doing single target. It's boring for the tanks, who don't have to mitigate or even try. It's boring for the healers, who don't have to heal hardly at all. Once you've gone fast it's hard to go back.

    If you want to appreciate the area on your own it's easy to do that at a higher level using the Undersized Party option. If you do enough roulettes some parties will go slow sometimes.
    It's that much more boring to do a single target rotation than an AoE? if the single target mob dies too fast, then buff it. Make the mobs do more damage and have more health. Make us actually have to use sleep or bind on a mob. Oh the horror. Your solution is to go back later and do it with an undersized group??
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    nebby00's Avatar
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    Thracie Treebow
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    It's that much more boring to do a single target rotation than an AoE? if the single target mob dies too fast, then buff it. Make the mobs do more damage and have more health. Make us actually have to use sleep or bind on a mob. Oh the horror. Your solution is to go back later and do it with an undersized group??
    The thing is, people have stated before that they desired harder dungeons with more involved enemies. However, in order to make dungeons super accessible to everyone including the people who just run around in circles in dungeons contributing nothing, the devs made it face roll easy to just rush through the entire thing and get out just as quickly. So yes, if you want to take your time and enjoy at your own pace, it is better off that you use the Grand Company Squadron system for ARR and HW dungeons, and the Trust system for SHB. Or if you still want to play with other people, go in with your Free Company or friends. These are the only solutions to your problem at the moment. Going in with random people you have to expect that veteran players are going to want to go fast, although they should be waiting on you if you're in a cutscene. That's what I always do at least if I see a new player in any cutscene.
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    It's that much more boring to do a single target rotation than an AoE? if the single target mob dies too fast, then buff it. Make the mobs do more damage and have more health. Make us actually have to use sleep or bind on a mob. Oh the horror. Your solution is to go back later and do it with an undersized group??
    they are equally boring
    Thus, I prefer your apporach, make the damange receive more intense, healing potency lower, and give some mechanics on trash, e.g. move certain trash mob to a puddle/avoid puddle, kill them in specific order, interrupt their skill, use sleep etc
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    Shironeko_Narunyan's Avatar
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Sophia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    make the damange receive more intense
    Also, remove skills like Lucid Dreaming. The group is only as fast as the healer supports, and without MP, things slow down automatically.
    Some MP draining mechanics would also be nice.

    They made a mistake, removing TP.
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