Serious health concerns: motion sickness and vertigo in latest raids.

[Amariel34]

I have returned to the game relatively recently and have begun catching up in the latest content. The nier raids, eden etc. In doing this i have encountered one very alarming thing: a sudden dramatic increase in environmental movement and excessive use of special effects. I never really experienced this in older content, so something in the latest stuff has crossed a line.

Excessive movement in the sky boxes, random environmental movement in objects like factory fans, excessively large bosses with lots of moving parts. These are incredibly disorienting, especially to those of us more susceptible to motion sickness. This makes these encounters not only unfun, but a health risk. It may even induce vomiting in some people or cause them to lose their balance when rising from their seats.

Adding something to accessibility options to freeze skybox and environmental animations would go a long way into lessening things like this. And i would encourage the devs to take a second look at the animations of large bosses to lessen any possible effect it may have on those of us with motion sickness.

I'm not sure if it would help, but have you tried messing with the color blindness settings? I had trouble seeing the markers in the Innocence trial and someone in the group suggested using the color blindness settings to help make it easier to see things. For the record I do not have any color blindness issues. And it did work. I know your problem is not the same, but I wondered if changing the colors might help alleviate your problem even just a little. Tends to make things look weird but if it helps.

[Breakbeat]

I must admit Illmaeran, that I am always impressed with your ability to add nothing of worth at all - whilst somehow penning an essay. It's almost a talent.

How rude. Certainly what they wrote has worth. I'm surprised you cannot see it, since it's there in plain English.

This person sympathizes with the OP because they've personally had similar problems, but they offer the opinion that they should accept the game as it is, and perhaps try to minimize the effects via other means. I agree with their sentiment. One can only ask for so much without contributing their own efforts to solve personal problems.

What Illmaeran posted literally has infintely more worth than the part of your post I quoted, since yours is nothing but a personal attack and has absolutely, positively nothing to do with the discussion.

You get that, right? It's irony at its best.

[Oichi]

I absolutely feel you there. I was farming Byakko for the dog and the falling section had me getting motion sick to the point where the raid leader said to just keep my eyes closed and they'll tell me when that part is over and they'll rez me after. But I'm not sure if there's anything that could be done to help in that particular fight.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pTQekJ...e=emb_imp_woyt

This is how I farmed Byakko for the dog. Basically you stop dps entirely at 62%, as shown. It will skip the fall phase every time. Not a solution for all motion sickness issues, but it will work like a charm for that particular one

[Ronduwil]

I thought the sage icon nonsense was dumb enough...but the hyperbole is getting ridiculous. "Serious" health issue? How is it that people are so delicate that now a mere phobia presents an accessibility/sensitivity issue? Lalas creep me out and make me feel nauseous. Where's my lala removal Square?

Motion sickness is not a "mere phobia." It's a neurological thing. Some peoples' brains (mine included) can't handle it when their visual perception neglects to line up with their inner ear's perception of motion. It is in no way related to aesthetics. Your example with Lalas is comparing apples to oranges. Portal is a beautiful game, and the little I played of it was lots of fun. Unfortunately, I had to walk away from my computer five minutes into playing the demo, so I never bought the full version, nor did I ever play it again. It's nothing to do with the aesthetics of the game and everything to do with the fact the first person perspectives make me physically ill. Not because I deem them uncool or ugly, but because my brain can't handle seeing such realistic movements while I'm sitting still in front of my computer.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

I thought the sage icon nonsense was dumb enough...but the hyperbole is getting ridiculous. "Serious" health issue? How is it that people are so delicate that now a mere phobia presents an accessibility/sensitivity issue? Lalas creep me out and make me feel nauseous. Where's my lala removal Square?

The Sage icon was a very easy fix for something that would permeate the entire game. You're changing a single icon that could show up anywhere, in any party.

Changing motion sickness in a raid is a much harder fix for something that can be avoided by simply not doing that raid. While it is something I'd like to see them assess, the reality is that if it takes a ton of manpower to help out a minority of players do a single piece of content, its simply not something SE can spend resources on.

[lezard21]

This is the weirdest troll trend I've seen in all my gaming years

[BaconBits]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pTQekJ...e=emb_imp_woyt

This is how I farmed Byakko for the dog. Basically you stop dps entirely at 62%, as shown. It will skip the fall phase every time. Not a solution for all motion sickness issues, but it will work like a charm for that particular one

Stop DPS? Never.

[Snorky]

People have all kinds of issues, motion sickness is physical. Like another poster in this thread who got trashed for trying to empathize with the OP I have a terrible phobia of heights. To the point I can not do the Golden saucer jump contest. I tried each and everytime no matter how many times I try I have to leave because I can and will react physically. You know I thought it would be good therapy for my phobia trying jumping but it's not. I have a great deal of trouble in platform raids and in the churning mists. So I totally get the physical aspect of this. But I also realize my fears are not going to change this game so I deal with it. They do make motion sickness pills you can buy over the counter at any drug store or you may want to visit your doctor to get some medication to help you deal with this illness. Motion is all around us, we drive cars ride bikes, skate boards trains planes. This is your reality you have to find a way to deal with it, because at the end of the day the world is not going to stop for you because you have motion sickness.

[Illmaeran]

You get that, right? It's irony at its best.

Thank you Breakbeat, I appreciate that. Mindori's not entirely wrong as I can, and often do, ramble while trying to formulate cohesive statements. It didn't need to be said, and certainly not said in the way it was, but this is a general discussion forum and these things happen. I'll just take it as a tip that I need to be more concise in the future.

Regards,
IQ

[Jettinson]

I absolutely feel you there. I was farming Byakko for the dog and the falling section had me getting motion sick to the point where the raid leader said to just keep my eyes closed and they'll tell me when that part is over and they'll rez me after. But I'm not sure if there's anything that could be done to help in that particular fight.

To be fair the Byakko one is legit awful. I can handle it because I got used to play extreme snowboard videogames or sonic games with constant falling and special effects as a kid but that section easily hurts the eyes and senses.