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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrhin View Post
    FFXIV is SE's cash cow.)
    Perhaps in the year 2013, when it allowed the company to continue operations after the disastrous 1.0 release.

    Please be aware that the mobile gaming sector of Square Enix creates about 3 times as much in revenue than the whole MMO gaming sector for the company. FFXIV is not the 'cash cow' people think it is. It only contributes about 10% of company revenue in any given quarter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bundythenoob View Post
    despite the near infinite revenue this game has brought them since SHB
    8-10 billion yen in revenue during a given quarter is not 'near infinite' for a company which averages around 80 billion yen in revenue per quarter.

    This attitude (near infinite) appears to stem from dim memories of 8 years ago, and does not reflect the current gaming market in which Square Enix participates. The sooner players get over that attitude, the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Perhaps in the year 2013, when it allowed the company to continue operations after the disastrous 1.0 release.

    Please be aware that the mobile gaming sector of Square Enix creates about 3 times as much in revenue than the whole MMO gaming sector for the company. FFXIV is not the 'cash cow' people think it is. It only contributes about 10% of company revenue in any given quarter.
    By that logic we should all burn our PCs and consoles and embrace mobile gaming, never looking back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    By that logic we should all burn our PCs and consoles and embrace mobile gaming, never looking back.
    Being realistic about the importance of sources of revenue generated for a multi-sector entertainment company does not imply the PC/Console Gaming World is going to collapse.

    The quoted statement is hyperbole, as are the uses of terms such as 'near infinite' [referring to revenue] and 'cash cow' when referencing the Final Fantasy MMOs.
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    They've dumbe.... er streamlined the gameplay with every expansion so far.
    No reason to expect anything otherwise moving forward.

    I actually feel sad for the players who weren't around before, to see how good the combat could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    They've dumbe.... er streamlined the gameplay with every expansion so far.
    No reason to expect anything otherwise moving forward.

    I actually feel sad for the players who weren't around before, to see how good the combat could be.
    Truth, now I know EXACTLY how Emet Slech feels. This is exactly what he felt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxCh40s View Post
    Truth, now I know EXACTLY how Emet Slech feels. This is exactly what he felt.
    SPOILER































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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    8-10 billion yen in revenue during a given quarter is not 'near infinite' for a company which averages around 80 billion yen in revenue per quarter.

    This attitude (near infinite) appears to stem from dim memories of 8 years ago, and does not reflect the current gaming market in which Square Enix participates. The sooner players get over that attitude, the better.


    so rather than ask the all important question of why our sub money is not being used to fund the hiring of additional developers to fix the problems that the devs themselves know about, as well as the criticisms the playerbase has been pointing out since HW, you choose to attack my argument based on the fact that its an obvious exaggeration?

    I hope they don't butcher whatever jobs you play for the "sake of building upon Endwalker jobs". the last thing I want is for even more jobs to suffer what DRK and SCH have been through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bundythenoob View Post
    lmfao SE gives an exponentially negatory amount of shizzz about both tanks and healers. despite the near infinite revenue this game has brought them since SHB, they never hired dedicated tanks and healer devs to fix the problems (they instead force their DPS devs to do it, devs which have stated before that THEY DONT LIKE PLAYING TANKS OR HEALERS), they never hired additional devs to fix the 1.0 spaghetti code that prevents them from revamping encounter and boss design (which is why I suspect they went towards a more complicated job design in STB), and they most certainly never bothered to look at the ~3 years worth of VALID CRITICISM found in these forums.

    you're right in that there is more to this GAME than healer GAMEPLAY
    but isn't the point of a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME to offer a wide variety of GAMEPLAY STYLES to its varied audience, especially if that audience is forking over $15+/mo?
    and before you say anything, yes I've been in love with the story, music, the world, the characters, and the overall aesthetic of the GAME since ARR, but if the GAMEPLAY of the GAME is as deep as a drop of water, well..


    "there wasnt much we could do with drk/sch/mch/brd/pld/drg/sam/dnc"
    I pretty much agree with all this
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    Quote Originally Posted by bundythenoob View Post
    so rather than ask the all important question of why our sub money is not being used to fund the hiring of additional developers to fix the problems that the devs themselves know about, as well as the criticisms the playerbase has been pointing out since HW, you choose to attack my argument based on the fact that its an obvious exaggeration?

    I hope they don't butcher whatever jobs you play for the "sake of building upon Endwalker jobs". the last thing I want is for even more jobs to suffer what DRK and SCH have been through.
    My guess is that it's hard to hire those talents especially in Japan. I've seen other gaming companies suffer from the same issue despite making millions.

    And then there's the fact that they put resources on higher priority projects such as new jobs and new contents. In EW we can see SMN getting a decent rework already and it's higher priority than SCH due to the sheer amount of players that play it.

    They are definitely using the money on the edge, it's just that SCH is not the edge lmao.
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