Will Beastmaster appear in any Endwalker content patches?

[Raikai]

It would be cool. If feel if there's any job worth exploring being "Limited" is BST.

They can literally create a new pokemon-esque minigame with pet combat, and tournaments with them as well.

I actually really enjoy BLU for what it is; however my biggest peeve is the shelf life of the endgame content of the job. Once you complete the spellbook, carnivale fights and the questline - and you're not someone who is generally interested in achievements - there's zero incentive to play it.

The easiest way to start fixing that is allowing them to run solo through Deep Dungeons, and add specific BLU scoreboards, feats and titles to that, so it wouldn't take it off the regular jobs' challenge.

[aveyond-dreams]

Please stop making theme park rides that get abandoned and turn into ghost towns after 2 weeks. The only remotely thing Blue Mage is useful for is fate grinding in the overworld for relics and yet it was denied access to Eureka, the literal fate zone. "But you'd invalidate the 'achievements' of the people who did Eureka at launch!" Yes and I also do that regularly by unsyncing old ex trials and savage raids.

So basically all that's left is a tentacle monster mount and a blue cane. That's its entire endgame. This was supposed to somehow impress me? Its doom was written in the stars since before it even launched.

Limited jobs are a joke that stopped being funny ages ago. We don't need to go down this path again especially when WoW has a hunter class with a pet that can do content with other players normally. I completely oppose turning other classic FF jobs into limited jobs and robbing people of being able to use that job in current content.

[MellowMink]

Please stop making theme park rides that get abandoned and turn into ghost towns after 2 weeks. The only remotely thing Blue Mage is useful for is fate grinding in the overworld for relics and yet it was denied access to Eureka, the literal fate zone. "But you'd invalidate the 'achievements' of the people who did Eureka at launch!" Yes and I also do that regularly by unsyncing old ex trials and savage raids.

So basically all that's left is a tentacle monster mount and a blue cane. That's its entire endgame. This was supposed to somehow impress me? Its doom was written in the stars since before it even launched.

First, it's not just two weeks only once and then that's it; action tweaks have been made to the job over time too, with those updates sometimes adding tens of levels of new content, which can radically change rotations and includes new spells, blue log challenges, achievements, titles, job quests, carnival trials, and more. I will say though that from those things, I don't personally find the job quests themselves exciting, subjectively seeing them more as chores to unlock more carnival and blue log challenges, but I like all the other stuff.

Second, there are currently more things to do than just earn that one mount (which is still incredibly hard to earn by the way) and a particular weapon: There are many other achievements related to no-echo synced runs that can include rewarded titles, more spells that can also be used in field fates and hunts, weekly carnival challenges, and numerous other blue log entries (which includes rewards such as allied seals that are easier to earn) that you may not have fully completed yet.

[Archwizard]

This was supposed to somehow impress me? Its doom was written in the stars since before it even launched.

I feel that the few remaining blue mage players see the world through a different lens than most people. [...] Enjoy your tentacle monster and weekly challenges. The vast majority of the playerbase has better things to do.

Nobody's making you play it if you don't like it. Get off your high horse, let people enjoy things.

I completely oppose turning other classic FF jobs into limited jobs and robbing people of being able to use that job in current content.

Blue mage spells are almost entirely all reskins with the exact same potency with a few meme spells thrown in the mix.

I actually find it hilarious that you put these two as statements to support your argument when they're sort of incongruous with each other.

Like, let's say for the sake of argument they made BLU a full job in the first place. So first off, no more learning skills directly from mobs, so that nobody is missing "the meta skills" for content and getting rejected from progression; it'd be a handful of abilities that you gain as you level and everyone's skillset is the same, just like every other job.
That's already Nail In the Coffin #1 for "classic" BLU, because the main conceit of BLU as "class that learns from monsters" is removed. But fine, brush that off, not every job fits the fantasy perfectly in 14.
Nail #2 is that the job must now be sorted into the Holy Trinity, so the number of skills it could potentially learn is now severely limited. The "ideal" Blue Mage would most likely be some kind of Tank (someone who regularly gets slapped around by monsters in homage), but gear-wise it's not compatible with heavy armor (And like, could you imagine trying to fire off a cast while getting hit by the boss, and not having Surecast or Swiftcast?) and would likely have to resort to casting gear, which throws that role option away due to stat balances.

But okay, now you have monster-themed abilities right?
Well, yes and no. You'd have a handful of staple skills for its role, but they would be "monster skills" in aesthetics only. Their actual effects would have to be rebalanced for "current content" so that BLU is neither under- or overpowered; you might get a spell named Doom, but it wouldn't inflict Death -- probably just be some sort of clone of BLM's Foul. No CCs, hard cap on utility so other jobs compete. White Wind would just become a Medica, Mighty Guard would just become a Manaward, and repeat that across the entire line of non-filler BLU spells.
Nail #3. You would kill everything special about the job even in its classic form to check off boxes.

Oh by the way, I did a count: 33 BLU skills are the "deal 200-220 potency" filler spells you call "reskins of the exact same potency", and of those, you can count on one hand the ones that have no distinctions in target effect, cast-shape, or cast time -- just element.
This is out of 104 BLU skills total, meaning less than 1/3 of their skills are "reskins" and even accounting for the mutually exclusive skills, you can actually have a full loadout with none of them. (But I mean, having a loadout without any fillers is bizarre even by BLU standards.)
You complain about "reskins", but if you turned BLU into a full job, guess which of those categories is getting pruned first.

The sheer amount of hyperbole that bleeds out of your posts on this topic reads to me as such a disdain for BLU that you've barely even touched it, so you're not even speaking with any authority on it -- just malice.
(The fact that your avatar only has two jobs unlocked, not even a crafter, kinda tells the same story there, but I'm willing to believe that's just an alt.)

This is what's unique about BLU, not purely the rotation or raid utility, but the use-cases of the job and your approach to content with it. It's dumb fun, for people who don't do progression content. And I'm sorry that you would rather take that away from other people because you're bitter it isn't applicable to the lane you're in but refuse to stick to.

[Archwizard]

While I am flattered that you took the time to write so much in response to my posts, if you need to write a whole essay defending this joke of a job that alone shows that something is not right.

I didn't need the essay, actually. It really was summed up with

Nobody's making you play it if you don't like it. Get off your high horse, let people enjoy things.

The rest was just telling you "You're wrong" in every conceivable way.

3. The harder people argue in favor of limited blue mage and the extremes they go to defend their arguments only further validates my point that they are just not seeing eye to eye with the rest of us who just wanted to collect our spells and then do current content, not stuff that was released years and years ago.

You could say the same thing in defense of literally every argument.
"The harder people argue in favor of the earth being round and the extremes they go to defend their arguments only further validates my point that they're just not seeing eye to eye with us flat-earthers." Gee whiz, no kidding!

Do you not understand how debate works? You present an argument, you back it up with facts and data, you anticipate counterarguments and rebut them. "We're not seeing eye-to-eye" doesn't mean you're right.

2. If WoW has a pet hunter class, so can FF without it being forced into another limited job. How is a game that came out in 2004 able to accomplish this while FFXIV can't?

Uhh, because the "tamable" Hunter pets are just reskins on a handful of base pets, distinguished only by one ability apiece?
Also Hunters literally have the option to turn them off?
Also also, 14's approach to pet jobs is completely different, but try asking a SMN about their experience and see if we need another conventional pet job.

[Blueyes]

When Limited Jobs were first announced, Beastmaster and Puppetmaster were mentioned as potential candidates to join the limited roster. Very little, if anything, has been said since that initial announcement. What that means is hard to say. Have those future plans been scrapped? Put on indefinite hold? Or has the current state of the world forced them to cut or delay content so that they could meet their deadline for Endwalker? Perhaps time will tell.

It's important to note that SE plans and develops content well in advance. I would not be surprised if, at the time of Blue Mage's announcement, they had already started production on the level 70 content. Everything we have seen up until this point was likely already part of a set schedule. Development time had already been spent. And if that is indeed the case, we have yet to see how SE will move forward in response to the wave of feedback they received. We've played our hand and it's up to SE to make the next move.

I would not consider it safe to assumption that more Limited Jobs will be added. Only one other case comes to mind in terms of experimentation with the job system and that was tying Summoner and Scholar to the same base class. At the time, they planned to do that with other combat classes. Perhaps even all of them. But in the end, they did it once, then backed out.

If we see no more Limited Jobs, I for one will be relieved. This comes from someone who used to main both Blue Mage and Puppetmaster back in FFXI. Those jobs may be less "cookie cutter" than most and to stay true to their design while integrating them into FFXIV would be a challenge. However, I do not believe that Limited Jobs are the answer.

[MellowMink]

As a side note, I would prefer that "limited jobs" be called something else; it's a pretty negative name that undersells how fun and useful said jobs can be for Party Finder instances and field content, plus they have their own content that's unique to them too.

[Tracewood]

Well, not sure how BST would play as a limited job. BLU learns spells and breaks a few older content. BSTs would be severely limited to overworld enemies. They'd have to introduce a Pokemon style system where they can fight, capture, and train their pets in an arena. As the pets grow stronger they can do harder content to capture even stronger enemies from dungeons/raids.

Luckily they do have a system in place they could take from, and that is the chocobo companion. While the chocobo is far more grindy to get to max, pets shouldn't need to take that long.

Having BST a limited job would stink, but it would breathe some life back to BLU for a while since BLU content has a FOMO if you don't get in on it while it's fresh.

[Seraphor]

Well, not sure how BST would play as a limited job. BLU learns spells and breaks a few older content. BSTs would be severely limited to overworld enemies. They'd have to introduce a Pokemon style system where they can fight, capture, and train their pets in an arena. As the pets grow stronger they can do harder content to capture even stronger enemies from dungeons/raids.

Luckily they do have a system in place they could take from, and that is the chocobo companion. While the chocobo is far more grindy to get to max, pets shouldn't need to take that long.

Having BST a limited job would stink, but it would breathe some life back to BLU for a while since BLU content has a FOMO if you don't get in on it while it's fresh.

Exactly this. BST should essentially be an expansion of the Companion system.
The BST job itself would be able to tame certain overworld enemies to add to your Companion roster. BST would be able to take those into instanced duties as a limited job, and have various skills that supported and instructed the Companion.
Meanwhile, you would be able to use any of those tamed creatures as your companion, when playing as any other job, just like the Company Chocobo.
The Chocobo would likely stay as the 'all-rounder' companion that can fulfil any role, with tamed creatures fitting more neatly into exclusive paradigms, like tank/healer/dps, and broken down further into pure/shield/support healer, support/dot/aoe/magical/physical/elemental dps.

It could get it's own version of the Masked Carnivale up to a certain point, but then level 80/90 content could combine both BLU and BST into one avenue of solo content.

So this would enhance the game two-fold; first it's expanding the roster of limited jobs, so that BLU has another companion job that can go into limited duty content (it could share the Morbol mount achievement, and be added to any future exclusive rewards too), but it's also providing more content to use with any job via the Companion system.

[Shurrikhan]

Explaining to a job why it has been shackled to a minigame, or vice versa: Your developers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.