Hidde Glamours Locally (& other graphically immersive options)

[Krotoan]

I wouldn't be using it in the first place; my point here was that there will absolutely be people who will complain that the new "Glamour hide system is too restrictive! everyone looks the same".

As is evidenced by this forum, someone will complain about everything. That's hardly a tick against it. If enough people complained it could be adjusted with a larger range of "basic" job glamours such as making them change every 10 levels or so or have palettes of possible combinations. Every single possible problem doesn't need to be solved for something to happen.

The best solution is the FFXI one, but even then I feel it's a waste of time -unless- it somehow boosts the game's speed (less assets to load) to allow for older specs to run the game; or to delay the eventual need for a spec increase.

It would absolutely make lower end computers bog down less when loading in crowded areas. Fewer textures and models being loaded = less demand on RAM. How significant would remain to be seen but many of the games I play who have this type of option do it for optimization of loading in crowded areas.

Another benefit you may want to think of is people who complain about not being able to identify jobs by gear and use that excuse to argue for limiting glamour options will have an option to hard-limit other players on their screen to easily identifiable models and textures.

No more "we need this gear to mean this job/class/race" excuse.

The problem to me is not a problem of immersion or giving players options or not; it's a problem that certain people who can not be satisfied. I also think it is incredibly rude to tell the devs to hide the work they put effort into.

Every option and suggested addition is people who aren't satisfied with the way it is. Their reasons are their own and you not understanding or believing them doesn't invalidate them.
They do this all the time when they make graphic fidelity adjustment settings or allow you to skip cutscenes or make optional content. Is all of that rude?

[kaynide]

They do this all the time when they make graphic fidelity adjustment settings or allow you to skip cutscenes or make optional content. Is all of that rude?

Apples and oranges; the amount of time to make a “skip cutscene” option code wise vs an entire glamour hide system are two different things.

I’ve said what I’ve had to say: hard disagree on a glamour hide option. There really isn’t more for me to add.

[Krotoan]

Apples and oranges; the amount of time to make a “skip cutscene” option code wise vs an entire glamour hide system are two different things.

but you weren't talking about dev time as far as coding or implementation of the proposed system you were complaining about hiding devs hard work. All of which do so.

I’ve said what I’ve had to say: hard disagree on a glamour hide option. There really isn’t more for me to add.

I'm well aware you're against it, but hopefully you have some perspective as to WHY different people want it and how it could be implemented in a way to benefit more than just "no bikinis or butts" people.

[kaynide]

but you weren't talking about dev time as far as coding or implementation of the proposed system you were complaining about hiding devs hard work. All of which do so.

My very first two posts on this thread explicitly talk about wasting dev resources….

Posted this on the other identical thread.

Shock I know, but you can mod the files to make this game as immersive or crazy or whatever you want.

This is a waste of dev resources. You want to block glams, do the legwork and learn how.

How many man hours to design a system that will need to be added to regularly to allow players to toggle individual items they find distasteful?

People complain about losing a dungeon when the devs do other content. I’m all for that if the content they produce is wide reaching and useful. For me, this is the most niche issue I can think of, and would be a huge waste of resources.

I mean if they end up doing it, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings or anything, but this would be the fist thing I throw a meme at when people complain about “why no dungeon this patch ahmagerd!”

[Krotoan]

My very first two posts on this thread explicitly talk about wasting dev resources….

Great. But that isn't what we were talking about in that exchange.

We were talking about you saying hiding the glamours being "rude" because it hid their work.

I attempt to quote what things I'm responding to.