What's the Healer rush?

[Liam_Harper]

''YoU PuLl yOu TaNk!1!'' is the mantra of crappy Tanks worldwide, I used to be guilty of saying it myself in other games when I was younger until I got my head out of my bum and realized that there is no valid reason to actively hinder the group's advance by blatantly letting people die just because they tried to help make things go faster.

They're not helping the run go faster, they're being impatient. Unless they communicate and the tank is fine with it, it's just going to cause mess, especially if the tank paused for a few seconds to type or grab something. Both silent sprinting ahead then Rescuing/pulling and "you pull you tank" are toxic behavior. As a group, you either...

a.) Kick the tank for difference of playstyle (majority want to go faster than the current pace the tank is willing to do)
b.) Kick the dps/healer for disrupting the run when the majority are perfectly content with the current pace.

Either way, it's a majority rules.

[Shurrikhan]

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So we've got two options:

1. Take the small chance of disrupting a group if your tank happens to self-destruct over being asked to, over an efficient target count, do the same things he'd already be doing in any pack of 3+ enemies. Do not kick the tank. Do not waste the group's time.
2. Necessarily disrupt the group through comms to make issue of something that can then only be resolved through a kick. Likely kick the tank. Waste the group's time.

How is the first considered the more toxic—or even, ultimately, the more messy?

[ForteNightshade]

So we've got two options:

1. Take the small chance of disrupting a group if your tank happens to self-destruct over being asked to, over an efficient target count, do the same things he'd already be doing in any pack of 3+ enemies. Do not kick the tank. Do not waste the group's time.
2. Necessarily disrupt the group through comms to make issue of something that can then only be resolved through a kick. Likely kick the tank. Waste the group's time.

How is the first considered the more toxic—or even, ultimately, the more messy?

Furthermore, it isn't as those trash mobs hit hard. A DPS picking up an extra three pack will barely put a dent in them, especially Melee. While you can argue it might be a little annoying if a DPS/Healer runs ahead, it's nowhere near as toxic as someone outright refusing to do their job because their ego was lightly bruised.

[Sebazy]

So why is it with healers you're in such a god damn rush?

Try healing a dungeon one trash pack at a time.

It's mind numbingly dull.

Not to mention it's fairly common place for healers to level almost entirely via dungeon spam.

[AngelCheese77]

I must be the odd one out as a WHM main. I don’t get bored at all with small pulls. I listen to You Tube and podcasts. Don’t remember sh on my account.

[Rinhi]

I must be the odd one out as a WHM main. I don’t get bored at all with small pulls. I listen to You Tube and podcasts. Don’t remember sh on my account.

"I play a videogame to not play it and instead watch youtube while I press one button every 30 seconds"

[Nethereal]

"I play a videogame to not play it and instead watch youtube while I press one button every 30 seconds"

Was gunna say...

I don't queue as healer to watch youtube. Not to mention the admission was just circumventing the problem.
You are bored with small pulls that's why you watch youtube, if you weren't watching youtube you would be bored with small pulls, that's why you're watching youtube.

Class isn't boring I watch youtube when I'm there.

[Sagos75]

I hate the mindset that healers are just a one button job. It's a lot more complicated then that. Also I don't like tanks pulling big groups, mainly because there bad tanks and take a lot of damage and I have to throw everything at them including the kitchen sink to keep them alive and after all that I have no mana and they are already onto the next big pull. Can't you see I have no mana?

Also most tanks think they can handle big groups but then hardly use any mitigating cool downs to help keep them alive. I'm sick of it... I Can see that you are not using your abilitys.. be better tanks!! And maybe then I would not mind the rush.

On a side note i am handicap and have a hard time playing this game as it is. It's hard for me to push a million buttons at one time, but I do my best. Please stop assuming everyone is like you and wants to rush. Maybe ask first?

I honestly think more healers could dps and help kill things faster if the pulling was no so rushed. Thankfully all my healers are 80 so I don't have to go through that hell again till the new healer job arrives.

[Nethereal]

I hate the mindset that healers are just a one button job. It's a lot more complicated then that. Also I don't like tanks pulling big groups, mainly because there bad tanks and take a lot of damage and I have to throw everything at them including the kitchen sink to keep them alive and after all that I have no mana and they are already onto the next big pull. Can't you see I have no mana?

Also most tanks think they can handle big groups but then hardly use any mitigating cool downs to help keep them alive. I'm sick of it... I Can see that you are not using your abilitys.. be better tanks!! And maybe then I would not mind the rush.

On a side note i am handicap and have a hard time playing this game as it is. It's hard for me to push a million buttons at one time, but I do my best. Please stop assuming everyone is like you and wants to rush. Maybe ask first?

I honestly think more healers could dps and help kill things faster if the pulling was no so rushed. Thankfully all my healers are 80 so I don't have to go through that hell again till the new healer job arrives.

You only have healers leveled to 80, presumably through dungeons and it doesn't look like you've even done normal raids and you're going onto leveling another role.
There are bad tanks in the game but I have a fairly good guess most of your problems come from you not so much the tanks because the only class that should ever run out of mana from pulls when decently played is SCH on the chaddest of pulls.
Also if you don't like throwing the kitchen sink at the tank in dungeons then you honestly probably just don't like healing in general. For me healing is fun because I'm being forced to heal that's why I picked healer.

It would be faster to wall2wall and have you only heal than it would be to single pull and have you only do damage.

[TaleraRistain]

Having someone pull for you can be annoying. Had it happen a couple of times myself while learning how to tank, though I was working up to pulling bigger than a few groups over time..

Pretty much the reason I have all tanks at 80 for the amaro but didn't bother learning how to play them properly. I'd be in Copperbell, tell the team I'm still getting it all under my belt and intentionally sticking to low dungeons to practice, and still get healers and dps running ahead and dumping more on me. So I noped out. Leveled with like MSQ and Deep Dungeon and other non-dungeon methods. Which was a shame for me, because I loved my Protection Paladin in WoW.