PVP REWARDS SUGGESTION (FEAST)

[Zsolen]

I did miss a few seasons between 6 and 14ish however. But if I recall, armor sets are always done in 2's other than the coats. The coats had four variants.

You are not even on the board this season or last. You also were not on the board so many seasons before that. I only see you for season 18.

[Melrot]

You are not even on the board this season or last. You also were not on the board so many seasons before that. I only season you for season 18.

No wonders, Shadowcleaver armour set was the biggest FOMO bait in Feast's existence. Hopefully Endwalker will bring something similar All Class. Wearing dresses as casters gets boring...

[StriKE_SC2]

My suggestion would be something like battlepass (dont have to buy it but use the same progression)

In this way reward will be limited but unlock by just playing it in the season.

people will feel achive something even lose. and it encourage people to play it more.

[Stormfur]

What is battlepass?

[Alexandre_Noireau]

I just wish this community had a shred of respect for competitive content.

The competition of having more free time than others to throw matches at the duty finder. What a display of skill, not having to work, study or responsabilities.

[PatriotTEX]

I really hope SE read this forum to see the diverse ideas for the state of PvP. The need for exclusive rewards and casual rewards for a pool of participants is very much needed in this side of content. no one will be satisfied with all the answers or ideas we have. Mine i would like to reiterate is a watered down variant of Feast T100 rewards only obtainable by Feast participants with the end of season Wolf Collars (not Wolf marks) wolf marks are for the watered down versions of the mounts faded and in a color no one likes. this will trigger people of the T100 or PvP player base but SE is already holding your attention and is trying to increase outside attention to PvP Soooo your opinions are welcomed but may weight less on the table in comparison to the overwhelming amount of players who just do not know Feast and PvP exists and the players who know it exists but just wont get into it due to impossible que times and very bad irl rng that gets them stuck with someone who is throwing a match for the other team...

plus at this point seeing the word exclusive reward used for Unobtainable is really hilarious when people use it as a legit argument. now I want SE to just sell the T100 on the Mogstation to really ruffle your jammies yes let the ole legacy T100 Feast Armors be sold for real money on the Mogstaion Real money EXCLUSIVE BABY!! <that is how some of you sound when defending Exclusivity and Unobtainability.

i would also really love if the new PvP rewarded the old T100 armors for participating in its matches not with Wolf Marks or Collars but with a new Wolf item Exclusive to that content....like Eureka or Bozja but for PvP thats how they need to treat the game types. yes casual players can run but active participation in that game type is how you get the real rewards.

[Ixon]

What i find stupid Is that top 100 Encourage grinding, even if "wanting a grind" Is what Is criticized of Op and others. For example if i do 100 matches with a 75% win rate, i Will probably have less points than One Person that does 300 matches with a 50% win rate (i am not sure about calculation but i think you can get my point), so a worse player can rank higher than a Better One. Of FEAST want ti be Fair, Every player should have only a limited max Number of matches that he can do EACH season (100, 200.. dunno). And maybe a chance to redo all of them from scratch if not satisfied. Even "I" was told on One pvp pro linkshell : top 100 Is not hard you Just have to milk It. What if for wathever reason i don't have the time for 100000000 matches? Lol. Just make, ad i said, a limited Number you can do and gg

Nope. This is untrue because of how the points gained and lost work at the Diamond rank. Based off the scaling of points lost within each rank, you would need approx 128 matches to reach diamond at a 75% win rate, but Diamond is NOT equal to top 100. At Diamond you lose about as much as you gain, so it is fairly impossible to climb on a 50% or less win rate past Diamond, no matter how many games you play. So while it is possible to reach diamond at less than 50% win rate(and win rate is hardly a reflection on personal skill), you will never climb higher in Diamond and will most likely not be included in the top 100, while the more skilled player will have an easier chance at climbing to secure their position.

[Ixon]

I think the only thing they ever did right with PVP was Garo. That got people into PVP, the results were attainable but yes you had to PVP for them and actually put in the effort (not comparing them to the Feast rewards btw) and if you REALLY wanted to show off, you got all of them and the Makai Master title. Your ability to do so wasn't dependent on anyone else -- just the investment of your own time and effort.

Hopefully whatever this new mode is will have more events like that.

Problem though, some players would rather invest time over effort, in the sense that they would rather spam games for RNG wins than improve on their own gameplay, as can be seen today in FL or RW games. Having a Garo like scenario would be more of the same, people spamming for RNG win, not caring about the other members on their team actively trying to learn and adapt to win.

[Ixon]

The competition of having more free time than others to throw matches at the duty finder. What a display of skill, not having to work, study or responsabilities.

There are, both currently and historically, people with over 1000 matches in a single season and still are not on the top 100 board. Then there is the opposite, people who are able to secure a position in top 100 in less than 200 matches. One player even climbed to diamond in a single day from unranked this season. This in itself shows how much of an impact skill can have in determining your place on the leaderboard.

"The competition of having more free time than others to throw matches at the duty finder." - How do you think good players get good? Did you think they were born with it? Or do you think they have cataloged thousands of hours of games of experience to get that way? Of course the people who spend the most time in a particular ANYTHING are bound to be innately better than those just starting out, that's how anything works. Yet people make top 100 on their first season all the time, it takes more dedication and effort due to the lack of experience, but it happens.

In the end it's a COMPETITIVE mode, competitive. Probably one of the only real competitive aspects of FFXIV(took me like, 4 hours to get into the top 100 of Ishgard restoration lol).Meaning that people win, and people lose. You make the board? You win. You miss the board? You lose, better luck next time champ. Your participation trophy is the wolf collars you get and the reminder when you see an armor/mount that you didn't get.

[Ixon]

I really hope SE read this forum to see the diverse ideas for the state of PvP. The need for exclusive rewards and casual rewards for a pool of participants is very much needed in this side of content. no one will be satisfied with all the answers or ideas we have. Mine i would like to reiterate is a watered down variant of Feast T100 rewards only obtainable by Feast participants with the end of season Wolf Collars (not Wolf marks) wolf marks are for the watered down versions of the mounts faded and in a color no one likes. this will trigger people of the T100 or PvP player base but SE is already holding your attention and is trying to increase outside attention to PvP Soooo your opinions are welcomed but may weight less on the table in comparison to the overwhelming amount of players who just do not know Feast and PvP exists and the players who know it exists but just wont get into it due to impossible que times and very bad irl rng that gets them stuck with someone who is throwing a match for the other team...

plus at this point seeing the word exclusive reward used for Unobtainable is really hilarious when people use it as a legit argument. now I want SE to just sell the T100 on the Mogstation to really ruffle your jammies yes let the ole legacy T100 Feast Armors be sold for real money on the Mogstaion Real money EXCLUSIVE BABY!! <that is how some of you sound when defending Exclusivity and Unobtainability.

i would also really love if the new PvP rewarded the old T100 armors for participating in its matches not with Wolf Marks or Collars but with a new Wolf item Exclusive to that content....like Eureka or Bozja but for PvP thats how they need to treat the game types. yes casual players can run but active participation in that game type is how you get the real rewards.

With all due respect, I think your understanding of how Feast PVPers feel, and how they take your criticisms would be a lot more valid if you actually participated in the Feast a bit. It seems you have only played less than 50 matches on an account from as old as 2018? Are you actually speaking with the mindset of these who actually enjoy a competitive PVP gamemode? Or is this just a case of "ooh, shiny, gimme, gimme"?