Battle Command Design -PLEASE FIX IT

[Rydin]

Actually, I find using the action bar nothing like using macros from XI, and XI did do a lot of good things, majority of which were not SOP for an MMORPG, its biggest claim...it refused to be a WoW clone, or EQ, or any number of other online rpgs out there...granted it did take some good things from the games that came before it...but when it was all said and done...you knew XI from anything else, it felt different, it looked different and it played different.
Also, a game doesn't need to break records to be successful of profitable...

Yea... thats true.. you don't have to be the biggest game ever to be a success...
But you've got to think SE wants to tap into all of these people buying these offline final fantasy titles...
Im an idealist and call me crazy but I really do think you can please everyone... ok.. maybe almost everyone... Some people will never be satisfied....
I don't know exactly how you would please most people though... but then again... I'm no game designer

[Khal_Drogo]

Yea... thats true.. you don't have to be the biggest game ever to be a success...
But you've got to think SE wants to tap into all of these people buying these offline final fantasy titles...
Im an idealist and call me crazy but I really do think you can please everyone... ok.. maybe almost everyone... Some people will never be satisfied....
I don't know exactly how you would please most people though... but then again... I'm no game designer

Most ppl don't have the "vision" to recognize "bliss" even when it's slapping them in the face. It may sound a bit narcissitic of me, but I think I know exactly what it would to take to please, virtually, every gamer out there. Nvm, it sounds REALLY narcissistic lol

The problems with games today, however, cannot be condensed into a handful of posts on these threads. And, unfortunately, since we're not face to face, it's easy for our ideas to get misinterpreted. And, frankly, ppl love to b%#@h. They won't ever stop...even when they get their way.

And, no, I'm not being hypocritical. Had XI exchanged the increase in lvl cap to 99 for a "limitless" upgrade to all meritted attributes, skills, and abilities, I can honestly say that I would be completely content with that game. That's just 1 example of a "perfect" game that would quell my "rage."

[darkstarpoet1]

Most ppl don't have the "vision" to recognize "bliss" even when it's slapping them in the face. It may sound a bit narcissitic of me, but I think I know exactly what it would to take to please, virtually, every gamer out there. Nvm, it sounds REALLY narcissistic lol

The problems with games today, however, cannot be condensed into a handful of posts on these threads. And, unfortunately, since we're not face to face, it's easy for our ideas to get misinterpreted. And, frankly, ppl love to b%#@h. They won't ever stop...even when they get their way.

And, no, I'm not being hypocritical. Had XI exchanged the increase in lvl cap to 99 for a "limitless" upgrade to all meritted attributes, skills, and abilities, I can honestly say that I would be completely content with that game. That's just 1 example of a "perfect" game that would quell my "rage."

but here's the thing. xi was great for some people, but others enjoy the wow route. i'm not a fan of either xi or wow honestly. i hated xi and didn't even make it a full month before i deleted my character and never returned. wow was too cartoonish and had too much hand me everything for my liking so i left if for different reasons.

i'll be honest i was happier in january of last year with xiv than i was either in xi or wow. yes, the game needed tons of work, but i enjoyed the battle system, graphics, armory system, and crafting system much more than i did in those other games. it doesn't make you wrong for liking the xi system nor does it make the wow players wrong because they like that system.

the only reason i bring up xi and wow is the fact they are completely different games that are in opposite directions of each other. there is nothing that can be done to please both groups of people at the same time. they are just as opposite of each other in their desires of games they enjoy as those games are themselves.

[Sophia]

Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how many ifrit fights I've been in where ppl got caught in one of the specialty moves b/c they were having to coordinate looking down to hit a key, or pay close attention to which icon their controller is scrolling onto? And how many times I've accidentally scrolled down to a 2nd or 3rd list while scrolling left/right b/c the d-pad is too sensitive?

The action bar is a HORRIBLE template for controller users...so, "I don't really understand what *you're talking about" <.<

I use a controller and i have no problems whatsoever using skills in battle and i find the action bar is perfect for controller users after all it doesnt take a rocket scientist to map abilities to a convenient spot.
If you are having problems using abilities with a controller its your own fault or you are using a crappy third party controller in which case its still your fault.

[Khal_Drogo]

I use a controller and i have no problems whatsoever using skills in battle and i find the action bar is perfect for controller users after all it doesnt take a rocket scientist to map abilities to a convenient spot.
If you are having problems using abilities with a controller its your own fault or you are using a crappy third party controller in which case its still your fault.

That is true, yes; but, as far as I know, XI's UI was pretty much "fool-proof" (and I mean that in the most literal sense possible). My fault or not, this shouldn't even be an issue....

But, either way, I just want SE to stop ostrasizing their XI fanbase. Is it really that hard to please both parties?

[Rydin]

I use a controller and i have no problems whatsoever using skills in battle and i find the action bar is perfect for controller users after all it doesnt take a rocket scientist to map abilities to a convenient spot.
If you are having problems using abilities with a controller its your own fault or you are using a crappy third party controller in which case its still your fault.

Soph... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

edit: too late

[byyako]

Yeah man, am with u all the way. if this doesn't change am quitting. I know nobody really care. but eventually the game will die if they keep this UI.

Because what they have right now is kind of half ar$$ of everything... Doesnt satisfy the controller players nor the PC gamers...

[carlosx]

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[Rydin]

hey rydin where do you made this signature pls gime the website .... ty

http://elektrikmedia.net/enezia/sigsv2

Also... If you like someones sig you can right click on it and go to "View Image" (on Mozilla firefox) and look at the actual address of the PNG or JPG

[Jinko]

They tried the game; they hated it cuz it wasn't a WoW clone; and now they're going to ruin it for XI fans by trying to make it more appealing to *their* community.

This game was never targeted at FF11 players, if you look at the interviews prior to beta, Tanaka wanted a casual experience similar to WOW and Yoshida seems to have a similar vision.

Simply you are not getting your battle command list back, deal with it.

Because what they have right now is kind of half ar$$ of everything... Doesnt satisfy the controller players nor the PC gamers...

Isn't this being addressed in 2.0 though, man did any of you read that PDF stuff or do you just assume and complain.