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  1. #41
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    Bsrking5's Avatar
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I would say that many of the people with the "mentor" icon are only interested in the mount.

    its not as delusional as you seem to believe.
    But thats not what i replied to. You said without rewards there would be more mentors, who mentor. Thats the delusion i was referring to
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  2. #42
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    Jaelommiss's Avatar
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    Qina Jumaloth
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    As a tank main, who has raided multiple xpacs, when ever I level or play another role I find about 95% of tanks disappoint me. Its so easy, yet most can't just do the job as it is meant to be played.
    It's the curse of competence. After you learn how to play a role reasonably well it's impossible not to notice how terrible the majority of players are at it.
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  3. #43
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    But thats not what i replied to. You said without rewards there would be more mentors, who mentor. Thats the delusion i was referring to
    oooooh, well, you know what they say, hope springs eternal and all that
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  4. #44
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Famfrit
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    Paladin Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    Tank sets the pace for the run.
    Period.
    Tell that to the paste eating dps that's busy attacking one mob while 10 more are busy gnawing on your face, or the healer spamming nothing but Cure 1/Benefic 1/Physick while the enemies surrounding you peel your health bar open like a banana.

    Alternatively, try single pulling when the healer and two dps are chomping at the bit to tear a horde of mobs in half and have the stones to back it up. Unless the tank is horribly undergeared and melts like a snowcone on a hot summer day, you'll find out real quick that the group sets the pace, not the tank.

    The fact that there are people that still don't understand this in the year 2021 is actually baffling, I swear.
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  5. #45
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    Tell that to the paste eating dps that's busy attacking one mob while 10 more are busy gnawing on your face, or the healer spamming nothing but Cure 1/Benefic 1/Physick while the enemies surrounding you peel your health bar open like a banana.

    Alternatively, try single pulling when the healer and two dps are chomping at the bit to tear a horde of mobs in half and have the stones to back it up. Unless the tank is horribly undergeared and melts like a snowcone on a hot summer day, you'll find out real quick that the group sets the pace, not the tank.

    The fact that there are people that still don't understand this in the year 2021 is actually baffling, I swear.
    Yeah...as a tank, one needs to learn how to read a room to see what the party's strengths and weaknesses are. It's a group effort, so it's not the tank that is in total control. Sometimes you can speed things up. Other times you may need to slow things down.
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  6. #46
    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    Tell that to the paste eating dps that's busy attacking one mob while 10 more are busy gnawing on your face, or the healer spamming nothing but Cure 1/Benefic 1/Physick while the enemies surrounding you peel your health bar open like a banana.

    Alternatively, try single pulling when the healer and two dps are chomping at the bit to tear a horde of mobs in half and have the stones to back it up. Unless the tank is horribly undergeared and melts like a snowcone on a hot summer day, you'll find out real quick that the group sets the pace, not the tank.

    The fact that there are people that still don't understand this in the year 2021 is actually baffling, I swear.
    I made every party I ever joined as a healer sign a waiver before starting because death was going to happen no matter what they did. I am the worst healer in the history of MMOs. Hell I only had about 34 healing magic skill when I got to lv 75 on WHM in FFXI... >.>
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  7. #47
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    Drkdays's Avatar
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    Eternity Spellblade
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Probably the result of the expansion being nearly over, which means two things:

    1. Veteran players are trying a new class out of boredom that they have little or no experience with.

    2. New players are joining who are still learning about tanking.

    Or 3, I suppose, and you've just been getting the short end of the RNG stick in your queues.

    Or maybe all three at once.
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  8. #48
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    Equitable_Remedy's Avatar
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    Eristede Kell
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Genbe197 View Post
    Whats the deal with tanks recently?
    What's the deal with airline food?
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  9. #49
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    James Osric
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    Tank sets the pace for the run.
    Period.
    Healer's ability sets the pace for the run actually
    The only time the Tank could have any impact on the pace is if its a Leveling dungeon on the higher end and they're somehow massively undergeared
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  10. #50
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by morsdood View Post
    Healer's ability sets the pace for the run actually
    The only time the Tank could have any impact on the pace is if its a Leveling dungeon on the higher end and they're somehow massively undergeared
    In the end that ability is not made for specific role. It’s the whole group’s decision.

    I.e. dungeon is undertuned + Tank & DPSes wants wall pull + Healer refuse to heal a wall pull = (1)Three of the group will either be nice & comply with the slow run; or (2)Initiating vote dismiss to get a better healer; or (3)Outright ignore the healer and wall pull anyways because dungeon is so undertuned everything hits like a wet noodle.
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