Trust system for Trials

[Ativan]

Many people, including me, play FF14 for the story. We are immersed in the world of Eorzea and this world serves as a respite from the stressful lives that we lead in the real world. Yet the toxicity, homophobia, ableism, and elitism from the real world also seeps into Eorzea, which is why I and many others have much welcomed the Trust system in order for us to do content without being encumbered by the toxic sludge that a minority of this game's community brings with them into Duty Finder. Yet, minority or no, a bad apple will spoil the whole batch, and it is for this reason that whenever I need to queue for a trial during the main story I am anxious, scared, not knowing whether I'll run into a toxic asshole or not.

Please, Square Enix, implement the Trust system for trials. Many of us do not want to interact with other players for fear of our safety and mental well-being. We simply wish to play the story and immerse ourselves in the world, not deal with toxic elitists.

[Seera1024]

I have to say no to this. And I say this as someone who uses the Trusts for the dungeons.

Trusts require SE to design around the capabilities of the AI. This limits the interesting mechanics that can be put into the content they are used for. It's one reason why I think people have complained about the simplicity of SHB dungeons. They had to be made simple in order for the Trusts to work.

If Trusts are added for Trials, then Trials would have to have their mechanics simplified to match the capabilities of the AI. And that would be a detriment to the game.

I would say that the negative effects that Trusts would have on Trials, exceed the positive effects.

[aveyond-dreams]

Or you could make a better AI that is compatible with the difficulty intended for a lvl 80+ trial. I would love to take down Anima or the Magus Sisters with the party of scions rather than frog suit tank, pig suit healer, namazu bard, etc...

[CaptainLagbeard]

I wouldn't mind the option to do the 3-4 MSQ trials (on normal difficulty) we get per expansion with Trusts, specially since starting with Endwalker we have a big enough group of them to form a proper 8-man party regardless of what role the player is (mostly thanks to G'Raha and his all-rounder status).

[Rowde]

I mean... the test case already exists, Memoria Miseria normal.

So they can definitely make Trial content with Trusts... but can they make Trial content that can be done interchangeably with Players or Trusts that retains a modicum of difficulty when done with players... iunno.

I'm leaning more towards probably though when I think about ShB Trials... the normal modes don't have anything particularly difficult that I think an A.I. or script wouldn't be able to handle.

[Lanadra]

Oh, an Ativan thread.. I wonder if they can make one without buzz words- oh.. that didn't last long, not even three sentences, nevermind.

I don't really see why they couldn't do this. If you can accept that they're less efficient than actual players, by design, then why not? Like, I've seen people complain about Trusts not using AoE's.. yeah.. iirc that is by design, because they're not meant to be on par with players.

[Breakbeat]

Many of us do not want to interact with other players for fear of our safety and mental well-being.

Oh, an Ativan thread

OP clearly deals with mental illness. Mental illness is not fun. Mental illness is horrific. Why disparage the person?

Ativan (not the OP, the real-world drug) is a highly addictive medication that is used to control anxiety. Some people take it as needed (acute anxiety) and some people take it daily, like myself, for chronic anxiety. I'd only assume that given the things they say, OP takes it too, or has taken it in the past. Benzodiazepines are not fun, at least not when you're required to take them.

Knowing someone has a mental health issue, and then doing the, "oh, it's you again," thing is like looking at someone struggling with their wheelchair up a ramp and saying, "oh, it's you again," when you have to wait for them before you can pass.

Not a good look. We mentally ill folk are doing the best we can. Could you 'normal' folk not take jabs at that? Even if the mental illness manifests in weird forum posts?

Thanks!

[Vahlnir]

OP clearly deals with mental illness. Mental illness is not fun. Mental illness is horrific. Why disparage the person?

Ativan (not the OP, the real-world drug) is a highly addictive medication that is used to control anxiety. Some people take it as needed (acute anxiety) and some people take it daily, like myself, for chronic anxiety. I'd only assume that given the things they say, OP takes it too, or has taken it in the past. Benzodiazepines are not fun, at least not when you're required to take them.

Knowing someone has a mental health issue, and then doing the, "oh, it's you again," thing is like looking at someone struggling with their wheelchair up a ramp and saying, "oh, it's you again," when you have to wait for them before you can pass.

Not a good look.

I'm not so sure that this is the truth of the situation, based on their past threads. It's one thing to request a feature because of whatever issues they have. I may think that the issues are a little odd depending on what they are, but if the request is reasonable enough then I wouldn't see the harm. This is one of those things that I don't think would be an issue to implement if the devs wanted to. But bringing buzz words into the mix every time they make a post indicates that it isn't just a mental illness. It is a very conscious attempt to gaslight people for their own entertainment. That is what the OP does. If it isn't trolling, then they need to lower or quit their social media intake cold turkey for a long time, perhaps indefinitely. Everyone's got their struggles, whether they were in the past or in the present. I get it, and I understand. But the OP has shown their true colors more than once in the past, and I don't think it is mental illness at its core. I could be wrong though and I'd be able to accept that if I am.

[Jeeqbit]

You could just click to the Events tab so you don't see any chat. You will usually clear a trial in 1 to a few pulls at most even if they are trying to talk to you.

[Bearded]

The Trust AI is crap and would never be able to handle trials. I have given up on it many times as a DPS as the healer AI was just not healing, the DPS AI was not doing max damage and I failed so many dungeons due to THEIR limitations.