A request for Endwalker Dungeons (No more Undertuned)

[Shurrikhan]

Those were bad. So, so bad. They definitely weren't for the faint of heart.

I've only gotten them maybe... 7 or 8 times, but I only had any disbands one of those times. The rest were all pretty smooth. Certainly better than some of the Cata dungeons following the level squish.

[Vahlnir]

I've only gotten them maybe... 7 or 8 times, but I only had any disbands one of those times. The rest were all pretty smooth. Certainly better than some of the Cata dungeons following the level squish.

My experience was pretty rough with them when they were first released. I got through a fair number of them but it took a couple hours at least. Sometimes it took longer than that. It was quite the learning curve for a lot of people. Dealing with Wrath dungeons prior to Cata and the horrors they brought initially were like night and day. I'm always up for a bit of a challenge, but not at that cost. Dungeons, even heroics, should have never been that difficult. The devs really messed up there, and it set the wrong tone for Cata. Cata in general gets a lot of crap but I think it is usually for the wrong reasons. As far as dungeons go...that hate was deserved, at least at launch. And for the revamped troll raids. They learned their lesson I think, since Karazhan's dungeon in Legion left the old raid intact and introduced a new one in 5 man form. They even went and added heroic dungeon versions of it later on. It was frustrating to get through on mythic difficulty but I found it fun enough.

[Shurrikhan]

My experience was pretty rough with them when they were first released. I got through a fair number of them but it took a couple hours at least. Sometimes it took longer than that. It was quite the learning curve for a lot of people. Dealing with Wrath dungeons prior to Cata and the horrors they brought initially were like night and day. I'm always up for a bit of a challenge, but not at that cost. Dungeons, even heroics, should have never been that difficult.

Ahh, man, I'm just going to have to disagree with that one, I'm sorry to say. I loved Cata Heroics.

That said, I can understand why they'd be a bit much for some, even if I ended up even no-tanking or no-healing a few of them by the end, and commonly got through them even with DPS doing damage that'd have been slightly low even for a Normal mode run.

Granted, if they just hadn't allowed us to so overgear WotLK Heroics, I'd have been fine with them, too, even if the bulk of the difficulty back then was from people not knowing their rotations. The difference between their apparent difficulty on a fresh 80 and a year into WotLK were night and day, at least until the pre-ICC dungeon trio.

And Legion's Return to Karazhan was pretty brilliant, imo, when at-level. Mythic 0, especially.

[Vahlnir]

Ahh, man, I'm just going to have to disagree with that one, I'm sorry to say. I loved Cata Heroics.

That said, I can understand why they'd be a bit much for some, even if I ended up even no-tanking or no-healing a few of them by the end, and commonly got through them even with DPS doing damage that'd have been slightly low even for a Normal mode run.

Granted, if they just hadn't allowed us to so overgear WotLK Heroics, I'd have been fine with them, too, even if the bulk of the difficulty back then was from people not knowing their rotations. The difference between their apparent difficulty on a fresh 80 and a year into WotLK were night and day, at least until the pre-ICC dungeon trio.

And Legion's Return to Karazhan was pretty brilliant, imo, when at-level. Mythic 0, especially.

I would have loved those heroics...if others were up capable of actually doing them. 99% of the time they were not, so I gave up out of frustration after awhile. It came down to whether the time investment was worth the effort or not. I personally felt it wasn't. Maybe it was just bad luck. Maybe it wasn't. My experiences were probably different from someone else's somewhere regardless.