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    I’d like to mention here that at the level of quality the doll is made at, the price is definitely reasonable. Ball Jointed Dolls (BJD from here on out) are very difficult to make and it takes years of hard work, dedication and practice to even get a modicum of good quality. They’re hand painted and sometimes the faces are even hand-sculpted. You’re typically working with extremely tiny brushes, painting very small details that most people wont even see let alone care about.

    The price reflects this, and is typical for this level of craftsmanship. As they’re being made to order it’s likely that there are not a lot of people working on the dolls (to ensure parity between models).

    A typical BJD can take anywhere from 2 days to a month to paint, depending on the level of complexity. From making the clothes, crafting attachments, painting the face and eyes, sewing the hair in (or making a glued on wig/removable wig attachment which is no less a daunting task) and ensuring that it passes quality inspection, it’s understandable that the price point is what it is.

    Typically dolls from non-established brands and solo-artists go for anywhere from $50-400, and established brands have even more of a pricing variety. The most expensive dollfie doll, for instance, is about $1250 (137,500 ¥), and one of their cheaper dolls is roughly $421 (46,200 ¥).

    BJDs are extremely complex to work with. Monster High BJDs, for instance, require full body reworks before they’re able to just be PAINTED, and an established solo-artist can sell a fully repainted Monster High BJD for anywhere from $200 to upwards of $475 for just one. And these are presculpted, *soft plastic* faces.

    Though I will say I think dollfies doll style isn’t the best for a Y’shtola doll, ahah. It looks really soft and I’d have expected them to go with a stronger look for her and instead of their typical soft style.
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    The facial features are a little off likely due to them using a more traditional doll head as the base. Still it didn't stop me from pre-ordering it because it still looks extremely good to me and I like to collect things like these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    The facial features are a little off likely due to them using a more traditional doll head as the base. Still it didn't stop me from pre-ordering it because it still looks extremely good to me and I like to collect things like these.
    According to dollfie dream, it’s an original “Y’shtola” sculpt. I think they might’ve decided to sacrifice a bit of her original look for their own signature style (which I’ve seen them do for their Disney dolls too.)

    Or they could’ve adjusted a different sculpt and it just so happened they couldn’t adjust it too much without making it look weird compared to the paint job etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    According to dollfie dream, it’s an original “Y’shtola” sculpt. I think they might’ve decided to sacrifice a bit of her original look for their own signature style (which I’ve seen them do for their Disney dolls too.)

    Or they could’ve adjusted a different sculpt and it just so happened they couldn’t adjust it too much without making it look weird compared to the paint job etc etc.
    I think it's moreso the personality really, Y'shtola is pretty serious and stern.
    She's more sassy than cute.
    I still think you can communicate that regardless of artstyle really with facial expressions and posing etc.

    Even just something like the open mouth for example it's not something I really see Y'shtola doing and it makes her look more cutsey.
    Like I said it's really well-made but it does feel a little like a cutsey cosplayer cosplaying as Y'shtola.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I think it's moreso the personality really, Y'shtola is pretty serious and stern.
    She's more sassy than cute.
    I still think you can communicate that regardless of artstyle really with facial expressions and posing etc.

    Even just something like the open mouth for example it's not something I really see Y'shtola doing and it makes her look more cutsey.
    Like I said it's really well-made but it does feel a little like a cutsey cosplayer cosplaying as Y'shtola.
    Ah yes, you’re right. It’s a beautiful sculpt but I think having her give a more stern expression would work wonders. Or her typical sassy smile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    According to dollfie dream, it’s an original “Y’shtola” sculpt. I think they might’ve decided to sacrifice a bit of her original look for their own signature style (which I’ve seen them do for their Disney dolls too.)

    Or they could’ve adjusted a different sculpt and it just so happened they couldn’t adjust it too much without making it look weird compared to the paint job etc etc.
    The thought that essentially came to mind is that there is a base or for lack of better term core that's used in sculpting the heads of their dolls that might influence things like placement of features like eyes or nose and the overall shape of the face. This type of thing is fairly common if a company has established a specific style with their products. Though admittedly I haven't looked too far into creation processes when it comes to these types of items at this tier of quality. Honestly I'm more focused atm in preparing a display for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    The thought that essentially came to mind is that there is a base or for lack of better term core that's used in sculpting the heads of their dolls that might influence things like placement of features like eyes or nose and the overall shape of the face. This type of thing is fairly common if a company has established a specific style with their products. Though admittedly I haven't looked too far into creation processes when it comes to these types of items at this tier of quality. Honestly I'm more focused atm in preparing a display for it.
    Share pics!

    But also, you might be partially right. I think they used a basis and adjusted the sculpt to attempt to bring it more inline with Y’shtola’s facial structure while also keeping their own signature style, and in doing so seem to have missed out on some key differences between Y’shtola’s face and their style.
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    Saw a video that mentioned they went with a concept art piece of Y'shtola and did not use the in game model as the basis for the doll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Saw a video that mentioned [...]
    Do you still have the video?
    Could you link us up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Skye View Post
    >plays lalafell
    >complains about an uncanny valley doll
    BOOM

    My only regret is that I have but one like to give.
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