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    Red Mage was already kind of Mystic Knight, and now with the Confiteor expansion Paladin really fits the archetype, too. To my mind, a mystic knight doesn't have much of a niche in a FF without an elemental system. Sure, we could have elemental *aesthetics* that impose different debuffs, but that would then make it feel like more of a green mage than a mystic knight. We have enough sword classes, I think that idea is pretty weak compared to other things they could implement.

    I do agree, however, that a DoT/arcane mage seems extremely likely after the changes to SMN. I would have preferred that be rolled back into Scholar, but since it didn't happen I could absolutely see us getting something like a chronomancer or sorcerer.

    Also agree with people theorizing a second scouting armor class. I could maybe see a corsair/cannoneer at some point, although I think the Limsa GC was kind of intended to make that aesthetic available to all classes.

    So my hopes, for the next expansion would be:

    * Chronomancer/Sorcerer - use time magicks and references to classic FF villains (Starfall, Big Bang, White Hole, Great Attractor, Flare Star, etc.), DoT mage.
    * Blitzer - blitzball - melee DPS, uses scouting armor, has additional ranged options compared to other melee DPS. We don't really have a "sportsman" job archetype, and there is a lot to work with here. But I think it fits scouting armor too well not to be a primarily melee job.

    For 8.0, I would hope for:

    * Geomancer - greathammer - melee healer.
    * Judge - dual-weapon-staff - support tank.

    I could see the Chronomancer/Geomancer stuff being shuffled around and recombined ala Gaia, making a time-magick hammer tank and a ranged geomancer/druid type. Or both rolled together into a sorcerer concept. I'd be fine with whatever on that front.
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    Last edited by SeverianLyonesse; 09-21-2021 at 02:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
    They've already demonstrated with Astrologian, Machinist, Sage that jobs in FFXIV don't have to necessarily be restricted to anything established in prior iterations of the FF franchise. Particularly Astrologian and Sage, cuz even if somebody guessed those jobs, nobody guessed Planetarium + hip mounted Yu-gi'oh deck and Gundam funnels as weapons.

    So another valid approach is to think about: what weapons/playstyles would be neat versus pre-existing job archetypes.

    Personally, some weapons I think would be interesting Great Hammers/Mauls, Whips, Ball and chain, Dual-wielding shortswords(more like a duelist archetype instead of ninja "assassin-style"), Bo Staff, 3 section staff, bladed hula hoop, crystal ball, and floating crystal swords/spears.
    Ask for collab with 8bit theatre so we can have a job with swordchucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Ask for collab with 8bit theatre so we can have a job with swordchucks.
    I was so stoked to see the original 8bit sprites in Matoya's Relict? What's all this Dissidia nonsense about "THE warrior of light" being a long white-haired pretty boy? Everyone knows he's a redhead in red armor made out of about 200 pixels who really, really likes swords!

    Now, if only the Relict had contained an Armoire of Invincibility...

    [For OP's topic, I'mma just suggest Mimic, because I think it'd be impossible to do and I'd love to see what they come up with.]
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    They need to continue to break the mold with the jobs. They don't have to tie themselves down to prior FF classes, but they can still draw from them too.

    That said, I actually hope we get something radically different for the next expansion. I was thinking something beast related, maybe you transform into a beast or something. Also, a class based off of Noctis' ring powers would be dope as hell. They could make it work by synergy with others, for example, timing your attacks to a "marked" team mate. Whenever you two hit at the same time, it unlocks other abilities. We could also do with another magical based DPS class! In fact, we need more magical DPS with armor capabilities. lol
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    I honestly struggle to think of anything that would fit the "Scouting" archetype that doesn't step on too many of the other Jobs' toes, I think someone's in the other thread suggested a Job that uses quarterstaves?
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    Someone necro this thread in 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Someone necro this thread in 2 years.
    Spend your own MP and just cast reraise on it :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    I honestly struggle to think of anything that would fit the "Scouting" archetype that doesn't step on too many of the other Jobs' toes, I think someone's in the other thread suggested a Job that uses quarterstaves?
    Blitzballer. We don't have an "athlete" job yet. It could work as a melee DPS with some ranged options. Good options for animations (soccer, volleyball, basketball, rugby). Good options for support buffs (cheer, delay) or status debuffs (blind, silence, poison, wither, nap, slow). Could rename it "Blitzer" and maybe give it a berserk mode as a soft "berserker" inclusion (cripple, crackdown, unhinge, intimidate). Could even fit the the story flavor as we have a sort of "Olympic games" in post-Garlean peacetime.

    I feel like quarterstaves had their opportunity with Monk and Dancer. If they didn't make it in with either of those two jobs, they don't really have much design space left. Maybe some sort of druid, but that feels like it would end up being more magical ranged with only occasional melee use of the staff. In which case, we already have WHM and BLM with staves.
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    Blitzballer would probably end up Aiming, if anything. And yeah, true, Monk would've been the best candidate for quarterstaves, there's not really any other archetype I can think of that would be a better match.
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    Perhaps they can have a sub-class go off of Monk and give them quarterstaves/bos/spear-thingies? The sōhei used armor as well as traditional warrior weaponry, like bos and whatnot. They could even give them those crazy scary club-things they used with the spikes on them. lol
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