Is there a conspiracy for lvl capped players to ignore materia?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

of course... but melding is far easier compared to making a player competent.
a melded incompetent player will do more dmg than an unmelded incompetent one

Yes, and that will speed up a dungeon by... Seconds.


You won't go from a 20 minute run to a 15 minute run, for instance.

I'm not saying materia has no impact, just that the impact on those targeted by this thread would be basically unnoticeable.

[Tho-Much]

Its a boring system, i run only "Casual-Content" (aka no Savage, no Extremes, and so on...), and my skill is high enough to do enough damage even without materia... so i usally dont bother with them.

[GeminiReed]

I don't disagree that time is limited. I also agree that melding is typically a simple thing to for little to no cost or effort. It seems like a no-brainer.

Yes and no. The how is a bit obtuse especially if you don't have a DoH of the appropriate level but not overly complicated.

OTOH what to meld requires a bit of research and that starts wandering into "why bother?" territory. Just tossing in random substats isn't going to do a lick of good. Heck even the "right" substats could be very wrong because of how substats work. If you graph points vs. benefit the chart is stair-stepped instead of continuous. In other words you have to hit a threshold to get the benefits and anything over is a waste until you hit the next threshold. Last tier DNC had to meld in a ton of Crit. This tier a little Crit then Determination.

TBH if somebody's going to get pissy about it, I'd throw in Tenacity melds because I gave away all my Piety materia. Or just ignore them and possibly file a harassment report depending on circumstances.

IMO slotting materia isn't worth the hassle unless you're doing content where you need that edge. EX, Savage, Crafting.

[Silica-chan]

The game even tells you there is an npc for it in some side quests at around lvl 30. So you skipped it is what happened.

Those NPCs weren't always there, its possible for veteran people to not realize they exist.

Regarding the OP: I personally don't care enough to do it. I'm not raiding and in dungeons it doesn't really matter anyway. (call me lazy if you want, I don't really care)

[Darkstride]

Yes and no. The how is a bit obtuse especially if you don't have a DoH of the appropriate level.

OTOH what to meld requires a bit of research and that starts wandering into "why bother?" territory. Just tossing in random substats isn't going to do a lick of good. Heck even the "right" substats could be very wrong because of how substats work. If you graph points vs. benefit the chart is stair-stepped instead of continuous. In other words you have to hit a threshold to get the benefits and anything over is a waste until you hit the next threshold. Last tier DNC had to meld in a ton of Crit. This tier a little Crit then Determination.

TBH if somebody's going to get pissy about it, I'd throw in Tenacity melds because I gave away all my Piety materia.

IMO slotting materia isn't worth the hassle unless you're doing content where you need that edge. EX, Savage, Crafting.

I only meant 'simple' as far as actually affixing the materia. It used to be problematic, needing a crafter, but there's a vendor for it now that makes it pretty easy to have done on your own. Assuming you already know how materia works, actually having it placed on your gear is pretty low-effort.

I agree with you though.

[GeminiReed]

I remembered wrong. Its a an ARR msq quest. So you just didnt bother to read what they were telling you.

Neither Life, Materia and Everything nor Waking the Spirit refer to the materia melding NPCs. The former is part of the MSQ before Ifritt and that one only tells you to learn how to craft (assuming Gobbiespeak didn't make your eyes cross) at least according to one dialog transcript I've just read. The latter is a blue quest that opens up materia transmutation.

[DPZ2]

Is there a conspiracy for lvl capped players to ignore materia? Yes, yes there is.

A bunch of us held a meeting and voted to ignore materia towards the end of ARR when the ilevel 130 gear first came out. We've been on the sidelines ever since, because outgearing content is by far the easiest way to ignore the gil sink that used to be Materia. Frankly, I'm surprised that materia still finds its way onto gear that is not meant for, say, Eden Savage runs.

It doesn't help that there is no single current "how to Materia-lize your way to better stats" article on the Internet. Just periodic pot-shots at players who will never see a Real 'Extreme' Instance and don't want to play yet another mini-game called "I must have BiS gear in order to run the daily leveling roulette". Heck, most people don't even have 'Expert Roulette' on their duty finder these days.

Your only options at this point:

1. Write that article (I freely grant use of the title above) and ensure everyone you ever meet in any instance reads it. I liked this one a little bit: https://latetothepartyfinder.com/materia-melding-guide/, but it directs you to some other Discord/Web Site where you get to play the mini-game "Try to Make Your Gear Look Like This".

2. Live with the fact that people are people and materia hasn't been the same since SE removed the Carbonized Matter requirement for melding. The market crashed, and botanists and miners have never been the same since.

</tongue-in-cheek> (Look that up on the Internets. Woo.)

[Merryl]

I personally didn't put any materia in my gear. I'm not a savage raider and I rarely do anything other than roulettes and group maps.

[Jeeqbit]

I play on Light, and just wat?...
People in my experience are very relaxed.

That's why I said sometimes. It's probably not common enough in general that you would see it.

Only in EU have I seen people kicked for lack of contribution several times. I just don't see it everywhere else. I think it's because people are more casual on Aether, Primal and Crystal.

[Kes13a]

the npc's cant do penta for one, need crafting for that

second, I have noticed sometime the materia isnt showing in the slots for others