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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    I'm not the one straight out telling others to switch out. It's not my place nor any others'.

    if the aesthetics is behind your main complaint, then it's fine to complain. I respect your sentiment and it should not be dismissed.

    I, too, prefer Elemental aspect in WHM, though IMO some abilities many people in this forum praise and love should go away for good and never come back

    You may disagree with me and I can understand it, but there some people really like the Holy thing on WHM. Are they not part of the community? Should they deserve to be ignored?

    how about those who really enjoy that one button spam? I know some people do.

    Do you tell them switch their jobs when there's no substitute for them?

    and If they tell you to switch jobs or go player other games? Should you listen to them? Why should they listen to you?

    What makes you more deserving to ask for changes for healers than those who wish to stay the same?
    Nothing I suppose. Unless you think more time played equals more experience, and that deserves more dev attention. I don't think it's wise to center your attention to veterans and "gatekeepers" exclusively.

    You could still "one button" spam back in ARR. Heck you have always been able to focus your attention on healing and ignore the DPS part of your kit with any healer. Adding more buttons doesn't hurt people that don't want to press buttons. They just don't press them.

    But removing buttons/skills does hurt people that want more complexity or want to optimize, because they are forced to play with less complex kits. Im absolutely fine with lowering the skill floor. But why would you lower the skill ceiling too? Why hurt your veteran players? Is that design compromise completely impossible?
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Nothing I suppose. Unless you think more time played equals more experience, and that deserves more dev attention. I don't think it's wise to center your attention to veterans and "gatekeepers" exclusively.

    You could still "one button" spam back in ARR. Heck you have always been able to focus your attention on healing and ignore the DPS part of your kit with any healer. Adding more buttons doesn't hurt people that don't want to press buttons. They just don't press them.

    But removing buttons/skills does hurt people that want more complexity or want to optimize, because they are forced to play with less complex kits. Im absolutely fine with lowering the skill floor. But why would you lower the skill ceiling too? Why hurt your veteran players? Is that design compromise completely impossible?
    I agree with you, but the funny part is that despite taking away so many actions and spells. There are still lots of healers who fail to press what few remaining buttons they have.

    I'm sure you may have seen some healers that never use their oGCDs through out the fight.

    Probably from SE perspective, the current state of healers has enough skill ceiling as it is, but I jest.

    I don't know what will it take for SE to change their healer design philosophy. I personally dislike it and I hope your concerns and suggestions are taken seriously by SE someday.
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