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  1. #961
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTF-Taru View Post
    I commend your holy quest in seeking to purge the boards with the zeal of an Ishgardian Inquisitor of all those who lack the piety to continue posting here.

    I cannot help but ponder, mayhap, that you have given those for whom hell most undoubtedly awaits, the ammunition they need to continue with their depravity with this snippet of American legal text.

    Your quote would seem to make it Hydaelyn crystal clear that for a video game graphic of a minor to fall foul of the law, it must be guilty of sexually explicit conduct or be portrayed doing something kinky like BDSM.

    And even then, it's fine so long as you can prove it has artistic merit.

    That being the case, have you not just vindicated your enemy and proven that however odious or creepy it may be, something like a mod that just makes characters in the game naked (be they adult or child) is legal in the USA?

    Perhaps it's time for you to log off (all your accounts) and call it a day?
    Fun post, and thanks for the unsolicited advice, but maybe you should read the posts I was replying to so you can discover I wasn't talking about mods?
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    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

    ― C. S. Lewis
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    THERE'S NO POST ON SUNDAYS!
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  4. #964
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plushy View Post
    As I said. Living in your head rent free <3 coming back to reply just for me!

    Volountary? You mean voluntary?
    Seems like you need a voluntary trip back to the 5th grade! so you can learn how to spell!
    You kind of suck as a troll. Alt to stir, grammar arguments when You cant think of anything real, and You use those actions these days? What are You, 2015 steam forums wannabe troll?
    You should be called Titanman2: broken ego edition, becouse that what seems to happend in this thread. Enjoy Your level 70 alt account to spam forums.
    Your previous account where some apes called You "Religious zealot" was much better. (I hope its You, to at least give You some credit.)
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    Last edited by Lenivy; 09-12-2021 at 08:39 PM.

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    To be fair this I do personally find this to be an interesting discussion thread overall even if if was not the original intent. I do think it would have been better if people mleft the perosnal judgments and attacks at the door so to speak. Though I get these are largely heated topics and especially within today's climate.

    Still I think it is something worth talking about especially when it comes to the topic of does the media we consume define who we are. Like one of my favorite anime romance stories is Koi Kaze which is about incest with a minor does that mean I am into incest/ pedophilie. Some would say yes others no. The world we live in is not black and white so I welcome the discussion of differing views but unfortunately people often start to see red when differing views that conflict with their own sensibilities are brought up.

    Either way I hope a civil discussion can still be had in yhe future regarding such topics but unfortunately I doubt that would ever be the case when it comes to touch touching subjects.
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  7. #966
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    I welcome sensitive topics like this as well. Just not in this forum.

    Say what you will, proper moderation would've locked up this simply on the basis that body mods is the topic, not on what it entails or the ramifications and it would've been locked up with a moderator explaining why they're locking it up as early as 10 posts.

    Yet here we are, over 1000 posts long, after exploring pretty much every possible avenue ventured to prove one's point.

    No one is gonna onvince me this needed to be discussed in such manner in the FFXIV forums.
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    Last edited by SenorPatty; 09-13-2021 at 09:23 PM.

  8. #967
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I welcome sensitive topics like this as well. Just not in this forum.

    Say what you will, proper moderation would've locked up this simply on the basis that body mods is the topic, not on what it entails or the ramifications and it would've been locked up with a moderator explaining why they're locking it up as early as 10 posts.

    Yet here we are, over 1000 posts long, after exploring pretty much every possible avenue ventured to prove one's point.

    No one is gonna onvince me this needed to be discussed in such manner in the FFXIV forums.
    This thread has really made me question do we even need an NA official forum. The fact such a thread could exist and the fact people can feel okay with posting such vile takes without any consequence is what is most appalling by all of this.

    I get free speech is a thing but the moderation team should not let people get away with such damaging view points.
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  9. #968
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    This thread has really made me question do we even need an NA official forum. The fact such a thread could exist and the fact people can feel okay with posting such vile takes without any consequence is what is most appalling by all of this.

    I get free speech is a thing but the moderation team should not let people get away with such damaging view points.

    What vile takes? After going through this thread, i've not seen anyone who has hateful, vile, or any stance that makes me question the need for moderation. Is it because this game is so harsh when it comes to protecting players feelings in game that people can't disagree on the forums without the need to cry for mods?

    The topic had some good back and forth about laws, what is consider crossing the line. Art and rights. The amount of perspectives alone on the topic is amazing. It also shows the flaws of the western world with people acting like you need to be locked up just because you get turned on by not real art pixels or hentai.
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    Last edited by Wavaryen; 09-13-2021 at 10:41 PM.

  10. #969
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    I think no one disagrees pedophilia is disgusting and its really bad to see kids become victims. The disagreement is at the part where people say blanket banning mods/gposes because such issues exist should happen.

    This is basically the Jack Thompson logic train from the late 90s-2000s where video games should be banned because they are "murder simulators" because GTA and Manhunt exist. The problem arises that SE cannot pick and choose because under their own ToS -- such modding is a questionable area, and if SE does act - it could potentially ruin a good amount of player experience.

    Seeing such lackadaisical enforcement of policies before to not fight against a player margin (*cough* Gil buyers *cough* ACT users *cough* Quicklauncher users *cough*) shows that SE would rather allow such things unless something absolutely dire needs to be solved. Could this be the case? Maybe, but it would call into question on how Square dictates player-side texture mods.

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    Side note: RPers (specifically that section of RPers) needs to be better aware of who is partaking in their services and RP.
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    Last edited by Y2K21; 09-14-2021 at 01:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    This thread has really made me question do we even need an NA official forum. The fact such a thread could exist and the fact people can feel okay with posting such vile takes without any consequence is what is most appalling by all of this.

    I get free speech is a thing but the moderation team should not let people get away with such damaging view points.
    I’m surprised the mods have done absolutely nothing againt your main account and this alt one, Plushy.
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