Live letter expectations.

[Deceptus]

Not prepared to quit because I find other jobs enjoyable, but I don't have any expectations either except that sage will be either vastly superior to the other healers or vastly undertuned.

If past expansions are anything to go by they will be overtuned at the start to make them appear to be "fun" and get people to try them out only to be nerfed further down the line.

Then, the devs will realize how bad the nerfs were then buff 10 potency up /s

[Roeshel]

The outlier BLM's who do insane damage use Lucid Dreaming during Umbral so it's applicable to BLM

The healer forum is riddled with incorrect information.
Lucid Dreaming has zero impact on BLM's optimization.




Just stop talking nonsense. Thank you.

[Acece]

The healer forum is riddled with incorrect information.
Lucid Dreaming has zero impact on BLM's optimization.



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Just stop talking nonsense. Thank you.

With a specific rotation you do, if you do the "meme rotation" you use lucid to get a tick of mana so you don't need to use blizzard 4. [url]https://www.fflogs.com/reports/Jm81Rhnyc2xAjwN4#fight=21&type=casts&source=3
for more info: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PdDAqmjSHJzpD4xrA7SUGtgqaoFoRibSYAsxfyOw9-I/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SBU4HpqBenHAXFr6V-gwAKggkfBgJ2IR9FEbMtT3YRw/edit

Edit wrong log lol https://www.fflogs.com/reports/frBgNFaX4xL2pDWP#fight=19&type=casts&source=6

[Sebazy]

The healer forum is riddled with incorrect information.
Lucid Dreaming has zero impact on BLM's optimization.



Just stop talking nonsense. Thank you.

Jumping to conclusions from one fight is a really bad idea, especially when it's one that repeatedly stuns the raid with regularity FYI. You have actually cleared this content right?

I'll invite you to look up and down the rankings for E10s (Since that's more of a target dummy with movement), the 27k+ blms are all using Lucid. No Lucid Kanan is there in 46th at 25.7k FYI. Marginal gains are still gains

*edit* Just to add, if I had to guess, I'd think that tick timers are making the use of lucid in this way easier to judge accurately with less risk?

[Roeshel]

I linked the #1 DPS player for E12S Part 2.

Is optimizing Lucid dreaming as BLM so irrelevant of a DPS gain that you can get at the top of the leaderboard without using it?

E12SP2 having stuns did not prevent the #2 BLM to use it twice. The difference between #1 and #2 is like 7 DPS in favour of the one who didn't use it. The difference in the ratio of abilities cast is significantly different yet the rDPS output is the same.

For E10S the top BLM has used it 5 times and the second-best 6 times and it should be noted that the second BLM has the shorter fight duration. If it was actually a part of optimization things would have been reversed. To me it seems that Lucid Dreaming is more like a personal preference when it comes to BLM. And obviously most BLM mains like being in Astral fire state only.
The #3 BLM has used it 3 times and is only losing with 100rDPS against #2 who used it 6 times and with 200rDPS against the #1 BLM who has used it 5 times.
And then we have #5 BLM who has used it 5 times and is losing against #3BLM with 100rDPS

How exactly is Lucid Dreaming considered DPS gain? Just in the top 5 we have instances where people who have used Lucid Dreaming more actually have less than the BLM who have used it less. Isn't saying that BLMs are using lucid dreaming for optimization more or less the same as saying "The outliner healers are using basic attacks for optimizing DPS output". While technically correct, the DPS you gain is laughable.

[Sebazy]

At the risk of extending yet another one of your great derails. It's very doable for a SCH to do 10k+ worth of bookslaps in a 10 minute fight right? Here's one where my co healer netted over 12k in 10:04. Bookslaps, PPPs and stuff like this all fall under the same umbrella, most players won't care but it's a route you can go if you really want to squeeze out every last bit of potency that they can even if crit luck has the potential to outweigh it all.

Incase you missed it the first time:

Marginal gains are still gains

TLDR: You're wrong. Now can we get back to discussing how disappointing the Live Letter is inevitably going to be? This derail is dumb. Thanks xoxo

[QooEr]

gotta love when Dude Without Logs talks about how amazing healing in savage is and how knowledgeable they are about optimizing damage while also being factually wrong every time

[FoxCh40s]

gotta love when Dude Without Logs talks about how amazing healing in savage is and how knowledgeable they are about optimizing damage while also being factually wrong every time

I've just stopped arguing with him, as he clearly has no idea what he's talking about. It's rad to see Sebazy school the s**t out of him though, that's mostly what I'm reading this forum now for.

Massive entertainment value.

[Roeshel]

Is optimizing Lucid dreaming as BLM so irrelevant of a DPS gain that you can get at the top of the leaderboard without using it?

TLDR: You're wrong.

Makes sense. 20 rDPS is 20 rDPS, nobody gets it for free.

But at the end of the day, I am not wrong. You can get #1 first as BLM without using Lucid Dreaming.

[Sebazy]

Makes sense. 20 rDPS is 20 rDPS, nobody gets it for free.

But at the end of the day, I am not wrong. You can get #1 first as BLM without using Lucid Dreaming.

Oh no you don't.

Lucid Dreaming has zero impact on BLM's optimization.

It is a marginal, situational but measurable gain. You planted those goalposts, there's no moving them now. Now please give it a rest already.