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  1. #61
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    I used to play a old mmo in IOS, and went mad thinking everyone was the same person or was a alt of another person.
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  2. #62
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    Fellgon's Avatar
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    Tempest Moon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Do they though? I've never had this happen and my forum username is the same name as my character. Maybe I'm not important enough.
    i never had this problem too.
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  3. #63
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    While 100% agreed that it's a dumb term, I do see the nuance of its use, especially here in Japan. The whole concept that women couldn't possibly know or understand X because of their gender is truly mind boggling.

    We have something similar in my circle of friends we call "Baka-gaijin" (stupid foreigner), which basically is where Japanese try to explain something we couldn't possibly understand about Japanese culture, or heap on praise about "wow, amazing you can use chopsticks!!" when my response is (internally) "Dude, I've almost lived here longer than my home country, wtf. I speak the language."
    Oh there is definitely that aspect and that definitely does happen. I'm a woman in the IT field so I'm well-versed in those instances.

    But having the term for it has just kind of made it morph into something more unreasonable than simple equality. Two things tend to happen. One is that women get a pass for doing it to men or other women like I mentioned. I hate that. I do not talk down to my male or female co-workers or subordinates. I treat them like I would want to be treated.

    The other thing is that women start to find it around every corner. I'm in some lady gaming groups and someone talked about a guy saying something as innocuous as "Play a better game". Nothing gendered, definitely something I had seen guys say to other guys, but because it was a guy saying it to a woman, it was mansplaining. Guy was being a cocky jerk, yes, but not because he was talking to a female. Not every interaction of a guy saying something to a woman is mansplaining but because it's gotten so prevalent it causes us to act like victims in every instance.
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  4. #64
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Oh there is definitely that aspect and that definitely does happen. I'm a woman in the IT field so I'm well-versed in those instances.

    But having the term for it has just kind of made it morph into something more unreasonable than simple equality. Two things tend to happen. One is that women get a pass for doing it to men or other women like I mentioned. I hate that. I do not talk down to my male or female co-workers or subordinates. I treat them like I would want to be treated.

    The other thing is that women start to find it around every corner. I'm in some lady gaming groups and someone talked about a guy saying something as innocuous as "Play a better game". Nothing gendered, definitely something I had seen guys say to other guys, but because it was a guy saying it to a woman, it was mansplaining. Guy was being a cocky jerk, yes, but not because he was talking to a female. Not every interaction of a guy saying something to a woman is mansplaining but because it's gotten so prevalent it causes us to act like victims in every instance.
    Thanks for restoring my faith in humanity lol.

    It's easy to get bogged down in all the lunacy online that you forget there are actual reasonable human beings in the world.
    Most of what we're exposed to online are just people finding problems everywhere and causing drama because ultimately it makes for better '' entertainment ''.

    It's the same whenever a new game is announced and I am guilty of this sometimes too, there's always a small group that gets outraged over one thing or the other, and then there's a reaction to those people that is five hundred billion times larger.
    And the reaction to those handful of people makes it seem way bigger than it actually is and like some massive widespread issue.

    Edit: Obviously misogyny is real and an actual problem, but people also do have a tendency to see it everywhere and to act like every instance of being questioned or having someone be a jerk towards you or whatever is that, which it isn't.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 09-13-2021 at 07:09 AM.

  5. #65
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    BigHoffie's Avatar
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    Logen Nine-fingers
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    To be fair you probably don't spout the tripe he does on a regular basis.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    I just find people offensive for finding things offensive... >.>

    I've made alts on here. I don't play them much though because the game lacks a few features that would make it exponentially alt friendly to me. Though I haven't done what I did in FFXI where I paid 3 subs at the same time and had all 3 logged in pretty much the entire time the game servers were up.
    I fall in the camp where I find people offensive for finding other things offensive then complaining that those people do not find the same things offensive and due to that should be purged from the internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Do they though? I've never had this happen and my forum username is the same name as my character. Maybe I'm not important enough.
    Anecdotal but I post on alts cause I did end up leaving the game after joining around 2017 because I had people come after myself and my FC at the time due to some of things I said on the forums.

    So I am sure if you piss people off enough people will go after someone.
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    Last edited by Awha; 09-13-2021 at 10:09 AM.

  7. #67
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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Whenever someone asks about alts...

    They're the ones who always scream "why would you want more than one character???", "You don't need alts" (or if on Reddit downvote the post into oblivion), etc...

    It seems like the idea actually offends them.
    Yeah I asked an FC member to invite an alt. They said something like "um ok, but you know you don't need alts." I said "yeah I know". I didn't have the heart to tell them both characters in their FC were alts.
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    Last edited by MsQi; 09-14-2021 at 12:12 AM.
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  8. #68
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Anecdotal but I post on alts cause I did end up leaving the game after joining around 2017 because I had people come after myself and my FC at the time due to some of things I said on the forums.

    So I am sure if you piss people off enough people will go after someone.
    Yeah, I've never had that happen to me. I've never had a stalker, and the few times I've met or been messaged by someone from the forums (either lurker or regular) in-game it was a friendly experience. I'm not aware of bad interactions happening to this extent to any other regulars I know either.
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  9. #69
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    That's a weird bubble to live in; I think it may be healthy to step out of it and just ignore the whole debate all-together and focus on enjoying the game.

    Also there is a ignore list in this game.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yeah, I've never had that happen to me. I've never had a stalker, and the few times I've met or been messaged by someone from the forums (either lurker or regular) in-game it was a friendly experience. I'm not aware of bad interactions happening to this extent to any other regulars I know either.
    Yeah I will not say if is common or anything and in my case propably a one off but that kne time is enough for me. I will do what I can to make sure it does not happen again.
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