PS Vita and Final Fantasy XIV

[Xionraserei]

Why do people keep thinking the Vita is more powerful than the PS3? Look at any Vita game. The graphic quality is smoke and mirror. The polygon count is indeed higher than the PS2 however the quality is no where near PS3. The way they make it look half way decent is by having a lighting system to try and fool you (Blooms and such). There is no possibility in hell that the vita could ever run a direct port from PS3, therefor it isn't going to be possible to run FFXIV on the Vita. Heat dissipation plays a big part in why the Vita can not achieve better graphics. Yes, the die on the gpu is smaller and more advanced (as in newer technology, but not more powerful) but there isn't a practical way of losing the heat generated at the level needed to be as powerful short of adding a fan system which would make it fat and defeat the purpose of it being portable.

[Zorlin]

The one for vita looks better. But I don't think ridge racer is a good example. I mean, it's a launch title and launch titles, usually aren't given the time to get polished. When we get second version of Games on vita from renowned studios like square and naughty dog (not bend studios), we will see what it will capable of. I'm optimistic.

The one for vita looks better? just look at the detail of textures and road polygons even the colors look shitty. PS3 is alot more powerful then vita and i even consider the ps3 weak to handle ff14. Remember the issues FF11 had cause of PS2 well its gona be worse if they ever port it to the vita.
Technology evolution is rather quick these days but comparing something that uses as little power as the psp vita does with the ps3 is stupid even if it is 5 years newer technology it would be impossible to have the same ammount of raw power. The vita is basicly an Ipad or a tegra with a smaller screen. Try it yourself, it looks good for a handheld but nothing like a ps3.
Most ppl look at vita specs for example the ram 512mb on the vita vs 256mb on the ps3 and think the vita is more capable then the ps3 just because of that. It not as simple as that. The PS3 uses XDR and comparing it to DDR while DDR can transfer 2 data per clock cycle XDR can transfer up to 8 making it 4 times faster if both are running at same speed. XDR uses alot of power something that cant be used on a handheld.

[Xionraserei]

The one for vita looks better? just look at the detail of textures and road polygons even the colors look shitty. PS3 is alot more powerful then vita and i even consider the ps3 weak to handle ff14.
Technology evolution is rather quick these days but comparing something that uses as little power as the psp vita does with the ps3 is stupid even if it is 5 years newer technology it would be impossible to have the same ammount of raw power. The vita is basicly an Ipad or a tegra with a smaller screen. Try it yourself, it looks good for a handheld but nothing like a ps3.
Most ppl look at vita specs for example the ram 512mb on the vita vs 256mb on the ps3 and think the vita is more capable then the ps3 just because of that. It not as simple as that. The PS3 uses XDR and comparing it to DDR while DDR can transfer 2 data per clock cycle XDR can transfer up to 8 making it 4 times faster if both are running at same speed. XDR uses alot of power something that cant be used on a handheld.

That video was good to see but the game example was bad, things move around too much so your only comparing the cars. So if you don't know what to look for people will see the wrong thing.

But i mean come on, People don't understand (Oh it has more memory! That must mean it better!) Wrong, its all the components together that determines how good something is. It could have a quad core CPU however the clock rate could be abysmal, the cache levels could be low. The GPU could be new technology but again the clock rate could be a lot lower, the processing core amount could be really small, etc. etc. etc.

[Zorlin]

Yeah i agree the video example wasnt the best. But honestly look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8SfiQ5Gqc
The polygon count is so low the textures look like crap only way you can play this is on a tiny screen imagine this on your 42" screen it would make you eye bleed. Imo ppl that say vita = ps3 graphics have something wrong with their eyes.

[Jericho]

Wii U. FTW.

[Xionraserei]

@ Zorlin Agree'd

@ Jericho >_>: lol...

[Coldfire]

I bet the people moaning about how bad the Vita is don't even own one and that's why THEY MAD xD

[Zorlin]

Yeah cause 250bucks is totaly out of reach for most ppl. Shit wish i had that massive ammount of cash /cry unstead ill just make up stuff to make the vita look bad cause i cant have it. Grow up, i didnt say the vita is bad i said the vita doesnt have ps3 power but its good you think it does, enjoy it. I never been a fan of handhelds or touchscreen myself im more of a pc gamer. If they can make a port of ff14 for the vita w/o hurting pc experience good i hope they do it. But they should of have learn with ff11 and ps2 limitations thats an hard task

[Elexia]

Why do people keep thinking the Vita is more powerful than the PS3?

"Just as powerful" doesn't mean "more powerful than"..also graphics don't mean a thing if the game itself sucks, by the way.

Why on earth would they release FF XI on Vita? That is not going to happen, you should not believe everything you read on the net. FF XIV isn't going to happen either, Vita isn't powerful enough for that.

...It was stated on the FFXI forums. (You know, the forums SE run?) It started as an internet rumor which they then confirmed there was talks/ideas about it being on the PS Vita.

[Coldfire]

Yeah cause 250bucks is totaly out of reach for most ppl. Shit wish i had that massive ammount of cash /cry unstead ill just make up stuff to make the vita look bad cause i cant have it. Grow up, i didnt say the vita is bad i said the vita doesnt have ps3 power but its good you think it does, enjoy it. I never been a fan of handhelds or touchscreen myself im more of a pc gamer. If they can make a port of ff14 for the vita w/o hurting pc experience good i hope they do it. But they should of have learn with ff11 and ps2 limitations thats an hard task

Unbelievable news 'specially for you: You can make one game for two platforms with different graphics but exactly the same gameplay. Don't tell others to grow up 'cause that's just sad. Stop comparing two systems you know nothing about and let the game developers worry about what's possible and what's not. You probably never even saw a PS Vita since until now you only picked the worst looking games for that platform.