Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
Since there are replies here, might as well break it down:

On EX Primals, it can go many ways, but since you brought up Heavensward EX trials, might as well bring up a few things:

You do have a point about Ravana EX, assuming the tanks do rememeber to split damage on Blinding Blade, take the prey, and party does their damage rotations well. Most of the time back in Heavensward from 3.3 and on, players tend to beat Ravana before Final Liberation went off. If party members did their rotations more properly, they would win before Swift Liberation went off.

You could clear Nidhogg EX in Roulette provided tanks can manage aggro on the adds, people killing adds in the right order, people seeing Nidhogg during his Cauterizes, keeping an eye on their chain color during Claw & Fang, baiting aoes during Sable Price balls, among other things.
I like how you start this off by trying to "teach" me how to do Praetorium. That's a laugh. I just threw numbers at you and you think people run these dungeons at speedrunner level speeds on a regular. Newbies included. You're trying to change the goal posts of your argument. You said SPECIFICALLY: "most Praetorium runs are cleared in 40-45 minutes." That's just factually incorrect. And then you go on to say the easiest HW EX fight, Ravana, is only easy if tanks remember to soak cleave together, take prey, and do damage. Tanks do NOT have to soak the cleave together, tanks do NOT have to pick up the prey(although they should because you know, that's the mechanic), and EVERY group can kill him during Swift Liberation. Before it even goes off. Like he's still marking players by the time he dies. The only time I wipe on Ravana EX is when healers die to the Ifrit rushes because they aren't standing in the middle(at first) and then moving to avoid the rush. That is LITERALLY the only wipes. No one gets knocked off after Bloody Fuller. And even if the healers DID get knocked off after, it would still be a clear because I promise you not enough damage goes out in that final phase that you NEED healing. You force him out of his defensive stance almost immediately because of all the damage you did to him in phase 2(his first Damage stance, in case you don't know the proper phases).

As for your comments on Nidhogg and Thordan...you clearly just have no awareness at all and probably cleared this stuff when it was relevant or new, which is great; congratulations, you learned the dance. Good luck teaching that dance to 4-7 new people in 60 minutes. It ain't happening.

Sorry, you really are arguing the wrong person here. I promise I have more knowledge and experience on this topic than you and your misguided views are making you look ignorant.