Large quantity of gil disappeared.

[Bearded]

Then again imagine the GM ticket "Dear Mr GM please return all the Gil that was 'stolen' from me when I used an illegal system - oh and please don't ban me"

[AnotherPerson]

Relocating to place a retainer to capture auto clickers and take their gil is happening and I would consider it a scam when the relocation is done simply for that purpose.

If you were to use an auto clicker (third party tool) to click for you, and then afk / stop paying attention to whatever you're clicking, you're essentially botting since you're having the auto clicker click the plaque for you and hit accept. You're just setting yourself up to get banned if that's the case. If anything, this teaches people there's no shortcuts to housing savage.

Now, if this wasn't an auto-clicker but a person's mistake? The reality is that not paying attention to whatever you're agreeing to is entirely on you as you had to click through the confirmation window when you were buying it. It's unfortunate if that happened, but that goes for anything that has a confirmation window and said player mindlessly spammed okay/confirm (even if it was throwing away your unfinished relic weapon instead of that lv 35 dungeon weapon by accident). Confirmation windows is set to prevent you from accidentally doing something you don't intend to do, it doesn't stop people who don't read what they're doing and hit confirm regardless.

[Sotaris]

I don't know what happen but by your description it sounds like you're using a bot or macro to click on the placard for unlimited time.
If true, you thought it was a good idea to make a thread on the official forum where we can see your name and everything and basically out yourself for actively breaking the TOS.

What most likely happened if someone relocated, placed a retainer and you bought a bunch of junk from the new house owner. Can't blame them to take advantage of the situation tbh.

[MilkieTea]

"I donno if scamming people by taking advantage of them is actually a scam though"

Would you be taken advantage of if you were present at your PC or television screen, there and able to hear (if not looking at screen) or see when the house was purchased?

If someone is able to relocate (or purchase a plot) place a retainer directly in your mouse (or controllers) line of sight, all in the time while you're there actively paying attention... then were you really there?

[Larirawiel]

Do i undestand it right? A bot user got cheated?

Cheers

[Reinha]

When this gil was taken from you, did any random low value item mysteriously appear in your inventory?

[lezard21]

As title states, I was at 29million gil when i entered the goblet to try buying a house, i realized after someone bought it and i was teleporting away that i only had 87 thousand. So in the 2 or so hours, 29million gil just up and vanished, i went through chat logs and i didnt initiate any trades or anything, just gone into thin air...

I swear I saw this exact same post verbatim a couple of months ago. Does the autoclicker also come with a built in forum post template? That's really handy!

It's actually becoming part of a scam where people will relocate to an empty plot to do just that and sell stuff to auto clickers by placing a retainer next to the placard.

Imagine defending a botter. Imagine.

[LaylaTsarra]

I swear I saw this exact same post verbatim a couple of months ago. Does the autoclicker also come with a built in forum post template? That's really handy!



Imagine defending a botter. Imagine.

I'm not defending a botter. I'm pointing out that it's becoming a thing where people are simply relocating to do just that and doing it multiple times on a regular basis. Maybe try reading a bit more carefully to see what I'm really saying. You are simply defending the relocation scam by people who don't really want the house but only take the money from botters. Two wrongs don't make a right and honest people are being hurt by this. Both parties are wrong.

[Curisu]

I'm not defending a botter. I'm pointing out that it's becoming a thing where people are simply relocating to do just that and doing it multiple times on a regular basis. Maybe try reading a bit more carefully to see what I'm really saying. You are simply defending the relocation scam by people who don't really want the house but only take the money from botters. Two wrongs don't make a right and honest people are being hurt by this. Both parties are wrong.

Relocating could be fixed so easy.
Just make them buy the new plot for the full price and don't get any refunds on the old plot.
Except when you relocate into a smaller plot.

[LaylaTsarra]

Relocating could be fixed so easy.
Just make them buy the new plot for the full price and don't get any refunds on the old plot.
Except when you relocate into a smaller plot.

There needs to be a cool down on relocation for 30 to 45 days. It's a nice feature for owners who legitimately want to upgrade their plots but like anything else people can kill it for the honest people by abusing the system.