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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    I heard the best way of making gil is to move an estate to a placard where people were mindlessly clicking (or worse, botting!) and drop a retainer with a full inventory of Coke priced at 1 million gil each.

    Did this happen here? No idea, but the symptoms track. You might consider looking into your purchase history.
    It's actually becoming part of a scam where people will relocate to an empty plot to do just that and sell stuff to auto clickers by placing a retainer next to the placard.

    The housing market has turned into a real joke especially on Balmung. I have a friend there trying to get a house and the use of transfers is simply sad. People transfer in and out of plots continually with some even saying they transferred by mistake.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 09-02-2021 at 04:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    It's actually becoming part of a scam where people will relocate to an empty plot to do just that and sell stuff to auto clickers by placing a retainer next to the placard.
    Dunno if scam or not, a GM would decide that. You do own every button you push ingame, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Dunno if scam or not, a GM would decide that. You do own every button you push ingame, though.
    Relocating to place a retainer to capture auto clickers and take their gil is happening and I would consider it a scam when the relocation is done simply for that purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Relocating to place a retainer to capture auto clickers and take their gil is happening and I would consider it a scam when the relocation is done simply for that purpose.
    If you were to use an auto clicker (third party tool) to click for you, and then afk / stop paying attention to whatever you're clicking, you're essentially botting since you're having the auto clicker click the plaque for you and hit accept. You're just setting yourself up to get banned if that's the case. If anything, this teaches people there's no shortcuts to housing savage.

    Now, if this wasn't an auto-clicker but a person's mistake? The reality is that not paying attention to whatever you're agreeing to is entirely on you as you had to click through the confirmation window when you were buying it. It's unfortunate if that happened, but that goes for anything that has a confirmation window and said player mindlessly spammed okay/confirm (even if it was throwing away your unfinished relic weapon instead of that lv 35 dungeon weapon by accident). Confirmation windows is set to prevent you from accidentally doing something you don't intend to do, it doesn't stop people who don't read what they're doing and hit confirm regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Dunno if scam or not, a GM would decide that. You do own every button you push ingame, though.
    "I donno if scamming people by taking advantage of them is actually a scam though"
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    Last edited by Bellsong; 09-02-2021 at 04:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    "I donno if scamming people by taking advantage of them is actually a scam though"
    How are you being taken advantage of when you own every button you press?
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    Ire earned is ire earned

    - if your exploiting an auto clicker, your experiencing ‘rot to the fruit’, aka you can not gain from legal actions if your actions are illegal.

    Using an auto clicker is against TOS, and punishable, be lucky your not getting banned and only loosing gil. Gil does not vanish on its own.

    (2): option 2, you gave someone else access to your account and they stole your Gil, that is your fault in any case then.


    My advise, learn from this, and avoid it in future
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    "I donno if scamming people by taking advantage of them is actually a scam though"
    Would you be taken advantage of if you were present at your PC or television screen, there and able to hear (if not looking at screen) or see when the house was purchased?

    If someone is able to relocate (or purchase a plot) place a retainer directly in your mouse (or controllers) line of sight, all in the time while you're there actively paying attention... then were you really there?
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    "I donno if scamming people by taking advantage of them is actually a scam though"
    They are bots not people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    It's actually becoming part of a scam where people will relocate to an empty plot to do just that and sell stuff to auto clickers by placing a retainer next to the placard.

    The housing market has turned into a real joke especially on Balmung. I have a friend there trying to get a house and the use of transfers is simply sad. People transfer in and out of plots continually with some even saying they transferred by mistake.
    Does is still count as a scam when you take money from people who use a bot?
    It doesn't harm the honest people and let the bot user's think twice of they want to take that risk.

    But yeah, it looks like exactly that happend.
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