Skipping Healer Slide Again?

[Allegor]

Considering the new job is a healer, I doubt they could skip it even if they wanted to, but at the same time I don't expect to hear anything we didn't already know

[Adeacia]

I still don't see what the complaints are about healers, and I've been playing one since 3.2.

[Mortex]

I still don't see what the complaints are about healers, and I've been playing one since 3.2.

Boring monotone gameplay were if you optimize you are rewarded with pressing the 1 key more, clunky as hell white mage, neutering of the cards and fairy ai/skill (don’t forget ghosting).I mean if you didn’t feel these changes I have no clue what healer role you did play

[Adeacia]

Boring monotone gameplay were if you optimize you are rewarded with pressing the 1 key more, clunky as hell white mage, neutering of the cards and fairy ai/skill (don’t forget ghosting).I mean if you didn’t feel these changes I have no clue what healer role you did play

My WHM and SCH are both 80. I don't really play SCH but I do play WHM and I honestly don't see the issue. I always play with random players so I never know what to expect with each group. Sounds like complaints from statics. You also admitted to causing the problems yourself in this post.

[Mortex]

My WHM and SCH are both 80. I don't really play SCH but I do play WHM and I honestly don't see the issue. I always play with random players so I never know what to expect with each group. Sounds like complaints from statics. You also admitted to causing the problems yourself in this post.

Yes but causing the problem myself because I wanna play the job better sounds already so dumb. And even in random groups fights are boring as hell as healer you either have a healer who doesn’t heal or heals that spam heal when the party has lost 1 % hp. Also I don’t find it fun to scratch the same player of the ground who dies too all mechanics.

[Recon1o6]

I still don't see what the complaints are about healers, and I've been playing one since 3.2.

Here, maybe this other thread with will enlighten you. This is the majority of just the shb changes btw, when there's more changes/nerfs from stormblood that are still outstanding
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-healer-issues

[WaxSw]

I still don't see what the complaints are about healers, and I've been playing one since 3.2.

Mainly 1 button spam the vast majority of the time as there isn't much to heal in almost any content (only TEA P1 and P2 comes to mind as something that actually requires healing) + a lot of the healer mechanics have been dumbed down and changed for the worse like Sch fairies for example or just plain clunky and uninteresting

[Rilifane]

My WHM and SCH are both 80. I don't really play SCH but I do play WHM and I honestly don't see the issue. I always play with random players so I never know what to expect with each group. Sounds like complaints from statics. You also admitted to causing the problems yourself in this post.

Playing well isn't a problem and has nothing to do with statics or randoms. Good players are good players.
It makes existing problems more apparent because casually playing something isn't a good benchmark for whether a class is well designed or not. Healers function. That's not the same as being well designed or having interesting gameplay.

[FoxCh40s]

Playing well isn't a problem and has nothing to do with statics or randoms. Good players are good players.
It makes existing problems more apparent because casually playing something isn't a good benchmark for whether a class is well designed or not. Healers function. That's not the same as being well designed or having interesting gameplay.

I always hate thus arguement. "They function fine, what's the issue?"

I hate hate hate HATE that arguement, as if the same thing was done to us as DPS, the whole game would be shut down and there would be profuse apology statements, and massive overtime and overhaul to fix it, and a huge PR train to announce it.

With Healers, we get Jack SHIT and zero care.

[Allegor]

I always hate thus arguement. "They function fine, what's the issue?"

I hate hate hate HATE that arguement, as if the same thing was done to us as DPS, the whole game would be shut down and there would be profuse apology statements, and massive overtime and overhaul to fix it, and a huge PR train to announce it.

With Healers, we get Jack SHIT and zero care.

The argument is even worse considering even dps jobs (namely MCH and MNK) have had cases where they're good in numbers but the jobs themselves just feel 'blegh' to play, and even then hesitated to give them overhauls, controversial as they'd be, because they were "fine as is"

That said, I think now more than ever they've gotten the most negative feedback regarding healers so maybe, hopefully, finally, they get acknowledged and addressed.