Skipping Healer Slide Again?

[FoxCh40s]

Taking bets here, who thinks they're going to introduce something even worse and then skip the Healer slide again? Anyone?

How bad do we think it's going to be? What's the realistic take on this?

[Duskane]

wanna just wait till you see the live letter to complain about healers.

[Videra]

wanna just wait till you see the live letter to complain about healers.

Top Kek right here.

I've been playing the 'Wait and See' game since 2016. Not falling for it again, gonna keep complaining.

[SpiralMask]

Top Kek right here.

I've been playing the 'Wait and See' game since 2016. Not falling for it again, gonna keep complaining.

it went "dont complain until the fanfest preview players tell their impressions" -> "dont complain until it's live (those guys dont count)" -> "it's awlays a big change at release, give it till X.1's balance changes" -> "well we cant change it now X.2 is the raid patch and big sweeping changes would upset th raiding playerbase" -> "it's X.3, it's too late for any big changes, just wait for the next xpac" -> and here we are again, probably with no early real gameplay previews due to covid restricting the usual fanfest interactions and showcases.

[Liam_Harper]

We've been waiting all expansion, it's fair to complain at this stage.

[Mortex]

at this point i assume they talk about sandwiches or 2 b thights again.

[Recon1o6]

My bet is they will give something marketing IE talk about sage is brand new and why they made it a shield healer and maybe at a push decided why they decided to destroy the last traces of astro instead of a less destructive option but then give no useful information.

My expectations are low since at least gunbreaker got a new attack but even the tanks are still suffering. Warrior just got an aoe version of an existing skill which doesnt count since that could be a straight upgrade instead of taking a hotbar slot. Pld and Drk got nothing new.

I'm expecting another clear indication the job designers haven't a clue with an incorrect assumption on how healers function and a vision that is incompatible with the game. Something about "we think low healer numbers in shb is because of a lack of a new healer and due to the popularity of gnb" and missing the actual reason which is "shb healers are excruciatingly dull to play outside of select savage fights before ilvl catches up"

[AngeliouxRein]

Yeah… I’m trying to hold my tongue on healers at the moment…

But I still can’t believe they are making this so difficult to make healers interesting. I like to think SE hired people that used to play a ton of different MMORPG or just games in general, to help realize that they have a golden opportunity to appeal to every playstyle considering the amount of jobs we have in this game. Healers could have easily appealed to all types of healer mains with one designated for those who only want to heal, another to those of us who like to DPS and heal and the last to those who like to buff and heal. Sage could have come in with another playstyle for healers… but here we are…

And yet, for some reason, they continue to only listen to “healers only need to heal” or “just play a DPS or something” crowd that normally doesn’t even main or play healer. I couldn’t imagine the outrage if all jobs were treated the way healers were but then again there are some people that want to see all jobs dumb down into something mindless…

But I’ll just wait to see if I’ll even bother to level a healer, outside of SCH (only because it’s tied to SMN), this expansion.

[ForteNightshade]

And yet, for some reason, they continue to only listen to “healers only need to heal” or “just play a DPS or something” crowd that normally doesn’t even main or play healer. I couldn’t imagine the outrage if all jobs were treated the way healers were but then again there are some people that want to see all jobs dumb down into something mindless…

It's more their emphasis on accessibility at all difficulty levels simply doesn't work with healers because the better you become the less rewarded you are. They're at a point where they have to accept this and allow for there to be a skill gap. Unfortunately, I suspect they'll stubbornly cling to the belief healers should focus more on healer despite it being practically non-existent. Our only saving grace is Shadowbringers actually saw casual players complaining about being bored. It might wake them up to the flaw in their design philosophy. But at the same time, Monk has ignored for six years because someone on the job design team just can't let go of a design nobody likes.