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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    The bar is you're literally useless in Expert dungeon if you're pulling small. It's basic mathematics. The outgoing damage is so low, DPS and healers can comfortably survive pulling three mobs. At that point, you're no longer a tank but a gimped DPS. Hence why the standard practice in DF is pulling everything. Or at least pulling two packs bare minimum.

    Ironically, you say to start a PF but in the case of majority rule, it's someone who prefers small pulls who should be creating PF since they're largely in the minority. Furthermore, with the advent of Trusts, you have a system tailor made for players who prefer going at their own pace. If Trusts take too long, well, there's a reason people still largely prefer DF. And I do play tanks, primarily so I never have to worry about pull sizes.

    At the end of the day, if the dev team wants players to stop with the "speed run every dungeon" mentality. They need to actually make trash mobs threatening. People didn't decide to randomly speed run dungeons. They realized how laughably easy most are and adjusted accordingly.
    There is no bar and no one is "literally useless" if the pulls are small. Tank is still holding aggro and taking mitigated damage; Healer is still healing more efficiently than any other class can; the dungeon is still getting completed. Roles not being necessary for small pulls isn't the same as roles being useless.

    Also, a majority rules case is what vote kick exists for. The entire point is that the group doesn't ever have to concede to one person's point of view, or one set of arbitrary rules. If you're defaulting to the majority in each individual case that's fine. Saying single pulling doesn't belong in high level content is just self-important nonsense, though. Not your job or your place to decide how everyone else plays.

    If you're talking majority rules in general, however, I'd say the majority of players don't care either way and will just roll with whatever is happening. People like you with "strong opinions" on small pulls are generally just a loud minority, hanging out on the forums where they'll get affirmations from similarly dramatic people.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 08-30-2021 at 11:27 PM.