As a Non-Native English Speaker This Game is the Most Hellish Game I Have Ever Played

[Caurcas]

As someone who holds a bachelor's of English, the wording used in the game is not really hard or difficult to understand. Y'all acting like it's reading middle English out here.

[Herebedragons]

they're bitter because they disagree with a localisation quirk? ...what?

There's a difference between "I disagree with Koji Fox" and "Koji Fox is a big insufferable show-off, know-it-all, who knows more than I do and I can't stand it".

You get me?

[VelKallor]

Where you can easily say essential they are making them say quintessential

quintessential
[ˌkwin(t)əˈsen(t)SHəl]
ADJECTIVE
representing the most perfect or typical example of a quality or class.

vs

essential
[əˈsen(t)SHəl]
ADJECTIVE
absolutely necessary; extremely important.

Those two words have VASTLY different meanings.

A quintessential element is not always essential.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Drinking game: Read through the thread from the first page, and every time someone posts the definitions of "essential" vs "quintessential", take a shot.

[Rannie]

Drinking game: Read through the thread from the first page, and every time someone posts the definitions of "essential" vs "quintessential", take a shot.

I would but I don't want to die of liver failure or alcohol poisoning =P

[ICountFrom0]

I'm from germany and never had issues with the "olde english" that is used in this game.
In fact I like it.

Think you could do a favour for me?
Could you drop into german language and get some screenshots of Urianger's Dialog using the cutscene book, and maybe include a translation from the german? Is he trying for old germanic or something?

[Rinhi]

Think you could do a favour for me?
Could you drop into german language and get some screenshots of Urianger's Dialog using the cutscene book, and maybe include a translation from the german? Is he trying for old germanic or something?

gimme a few minutes, I'll add an imgur album to my post with some screens

edit: I've watched like 10ish cutscenes with him in it now, from arr up to shb and he talks like anybody else, maybe slightly more formal, but nothing old germanic or archaic words

I saw a little more than 'disagree with a localisation quirk', you should read their Koji Fox rant again, if you still can't see the sheer bitterness they have towards the man.. I don't know what to tell you.

it just reads to me as if it's coming from someone who doesn't like the liberties koji takes when 'translating' it for the english language and of someone who doesn't like his presence during the fanfests and stuff and while I do find his antics cute, I know several people who have no strong feelings towards koji's translations or singing who'd tell you the same, that they find him annoying, cringe or whatever at the events

[Lanadra]

they're bitter because they disagree with a localisation quirk? ...what?

I saw a little more than 'disagree with a localisation quirk', you should read their Koji Fox rant again, if you still can't see the sheer bitterness they have towards the man.. I don't know what to tell you.

[Saccharin]

But isn't this odd don't you think. I wanna play a game, if i wanted to study english with looking at the words i don't know the meaning of and try to learn them i would have just do that. Like i said i would have study english. And isn't it odd to say that in order to understand some of the words you need some what basic knowledge of Shakespeare. Last time i checked mmorpg didn't require knowledge of old, or Shakespeare english.

You're asking them to dumb down the game into Facebook English because you want to play an English game but not put in the effort to properly learn the language.

How would you like it if I came to you then told you that whatever language you speak should be rewritten so I could understand it.

SE dont translate their game they do a thoughtful localisation, they take time on it, not just cater to the least literate.

[Ranaku]

You're asking them to dumb down the game into Facebook English because you want to play an English game but not put in the effort to properly learn the language.

How would you like it if I came to you then told you that whatever language you speak should be rewritten so I could understand it.

SE dont translate their game they do a thoughtful localisation, they take time on it, not just cater to the least literate.

I wouldn't call it thoughtful localisation tho. From JP into German maybe. But from JP into English it's just Koji Fox bombarding the game with weird accents and jokes for the NA audience. Somewhere in a interview he even said that he told the devs back then to lighten the stuff up in english for the western players cause they like that more. <shrugs>

Edit: Also this leads to some lore issues since people don't know what the original said and what was translated 1:1