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    FoxCh40s's Avatar
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    Scholar Lv 90

    Skipping Healer Slide Again?

    Taking bets here, who thinks they're going to introduce something even worse and then skip the Healer slide again? Anyone?

    How bad do we think it's going to be? What's the realistic take on this?
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    Dusk Himmel
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    wanna just wait till you see the live letter to complain about healers.
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    Liam Harper
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    We've been waiting all expansion, it's fair to complain at this stage.
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  4. 08-29-2021 10:26 PM

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    at this point i assume they talk about sandwiches or 2 b thights again.
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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    My bet is they will give something marketing IE talk about sage is brand new and why they made it a shield healer and maybe at a push decided why they decided to destroy the last traces of astro instead of a less destructive option but then give no useful information.

    My expectations are low since at least gunbreaker got a new attack but even the tanks are still suffering. Warrior just got an aoe version of an existing skill which doesnt count since that could be a straight upgrade instead of taking a hotbar slot. Pld and Drk got nothing new.

    I'm expecting another clear indication the job designers haven't a clue with an incorrect assumption on how healers function and a vision that is incompatible with the game. Something about "we think low healer numbers in shb is because of a lack of a new healer and due to the popularity of gnb" and missing the actual reason which is "shb healers are excruciatingly dull to play outside of select savage fights before ilvl catches up"
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    Angelioux Hymnwesfv
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    Yeah… I’m trying to hold my tongue on healers at the moment…

    But I still can’t believe they are making this so difficult to make healers interesting. I like to think SE hired people that used to play a ton of different MMORPG or just games in general, to help realize that they have a golden opportunity to appeal to every playstyle considering the amount of jobs we have in this game. Healers could have easily appealed to all types of healer mains with one designated for those who only want to heal, another to those of us who like to DPS and heal and the last to those who like to buff and heal. Sage could have come in with another playstyle for healers… but here we are…

    And yet, for some reason, they continue to only listen to “healers only need to heal” or “just play a DPS or something” crowd that normally doesn’t even main or play healer. I couldn’t imagine the outrage if all jobs were treated the way healers were but then again there are some people that want to see all jobs dumb down into something mindless…

    But I’ll just wait to see if I’ll even bother to level a healer, outside of SCH (only because it’s tied to SMN), this expansion.
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    LL healer slide (i'm guessing one whole slide between all three existing classes, and maybe sage will get it's previous two slides from it's announcement out to reheat!) probably be as reductive as usual, since it's not like real humans or anyone on the devteam plays healers by choice right?
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  9. #8
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    Skipping the healer slide again is practically a guarantee at this point. I'm not sure how it could get worse than that.

    Only ways it could be worse is if there was no healer slide in the first place this year, they admit that they have no fucking idea what they are doing with healers and winging it, or they go in the complete opposite direction the community has been wanting and remove even more of the DPS kits somehow.

    Also.
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    wanna just wait till you see the live letter to complain about healers.
    + They said they weren't going to add a new healer cuz they're gonna balance out the current healers, just wait and see.

    + They only skipped over the slide, just wait and see until the expansion launch.

    + They just release an expac, healers are always borked on expac release, just wait and see.

    + I'm sure they'll patch it eventually, just wait and see.

    + They're bound to patch it for this second raid tier, just wait and see.

    + It's too late for a rework this expac, just wait and see and I'm sure they'll fix it next expac. (You Are Here)

    + So what if the live letter wasn't promising, I'm sure the job action trailer will show good things.

    + They just release an expac, healers are always borked on expac release, just wait and see.

    Repeat and rhyme as necessary.


    I've been "Waiting and seeing" for two years at this point and I don't see a shred of these healer changes I've been told to wait and see for. I only see the opposite, in fact, with the crap they've pulled with scholar and the promise to gut YET ANOTHER part of AST's lore form its job kit.
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    Last edited by Laphicet; 08-30-2021 at 03:20 PM.

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    Should we start a petition for Energy Drain now or wait until it's gone again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    Should we start a petition for Energy Drain now or wait until it's gone again?
    Might as well get ahead of the curve.
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