Need a NEW SMALL RACE!!!!!

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Why exactly do we need another small race. Not just a want for some players, but a 'need'?

What other Small Races are there to chose from?
All I see is Lalafell, meanwhile we have several Medium and Tall Options to chose from, while the Lalas are all alone.
So maybe Need is the wrong word....but we SHOULD get another Small Race.
Yknow...if they can afford to make more races in the Future of course. Im not unreasonable.

[DontReadThis]

I wouldn't mind another small race if it was an animal-like race like the Hrothgar. I want to see how creative Square-Enix can be with a new race.
We already have cats, rabbits, and lizards, so I'd like to see what other kind of animal they'd use. It could be something like tiny hamster people with big, puffy cheeks, or it could be a race of tiny corgi people.
Anything is possible.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I wouldn't mind another small race if it was an animal-like race like the Hrothgar. I want to see how creative Square-Enix can be with a new race.
We already have cats, rabbits, and lizards, so I'd like to see what other kind of animal they'd use. It could be something like tiny hamster people with big, puffy cheeks, or it could be a race of tiny corgi people.
Anything is possible.

Ran across an english vtuber due to youtube recommendations named Gura... So how about small shark ppl that can apparently drown in water if they forget their floaties? Now if I could just figure out why youtube keeps putting minecraft videos in my recommendations when I don't really play that game or watch videos about it. XD

[SturmChurro]

What other Small Races are there to chose from?
All I see is Lalafell, meanwhile we have several Medium and Tall Options to chose from, while the Lalas are all alone.
So maybe Need is the wrong word....but we SHOULD get another Small Race.
Yknow...if they can afford to make more races in the Future of course. Im not unreasonable.

Is that not enough? I still do not see the need here, nor why we should have another. If we didn't already have something sure, I could at least humor the request as beneficial for the game, instead I just see it as what would be bloat.

[ItMe]

Is that not enough? I still do not see the need here, nor why we should have another. If we didn't already have something sure, I could at least humor the request as beneficial for the game, instead I just see it as what would be bloat.

I think you're getting a little caught on that word.
We also don't need more jobs.
We're simply saying that if SQEX ever considers adding another race, that another small one would be very valuable to FF14.

[BaconBits]

Is that not enough? I still do not see the need here, nor why we should have another. If we didn't already have something sure, I could at least humor the request as beneficial for the game, instead I just see it as what would be bloat.

Believe it or not, not everyone wants to be a potbellied munchkin that waddles like Cotton Hill, yet Lalafell are the only available option for players that want to play a genuinely smol race.

Meanwhile, players that want to be big and burly have Roegadyn, Hrothgar, Male Au Ra, and Highlanders. Tall and classy has Elezen and Viera which can also fit into the average height range. Then there's midlanders and miqo'te sitting at a relatively average height with female miqos dipping down to 4'11" at their shortest and fem Au Ra being even shorter at 4'10".

Plenty of options for everyone except for the people that want to play something something Lalafell-sized or somewhat taller but don't exactly jive with the Lalafell aesthetics of being cutesy, conniving little backstabbers that'll scam you out of all your money. There's also a pretty sizeable gap between fem Au Ra's minimum height and Lalafell's max height of 3'2”. Calling another small race bloat when all of the other height ranges have 2 or 3 options is honestly laughable.

[SturmChurro]

I think you're getting a little caught on that word.
We also don't need more jobs.
We're simply saying that if SQEX ever considers adding another race, that another small one would be very valuable to FF14.

I agree, we don't necessarily need more jobs either, but I think jobs are a pretty big focus for the game's identity, this and their last mmorpg. So are largely important for the game, and serve a mechanical purpose, unlike the novelty of a race.

I think another small race, rather another race in general, would be detrimental to FFXIV actually, in terms of development resources. I'd rather other things be made using these resources, than be permanently held up making and maintaining another race.

Believe it or not, not everyone wants to be a potbellied munchkin that waddles like Cotton Hill, yet Lalafell are the only available option for players that want to play a genuinely smol race.

Meanwhile, players that want to be big and burly have Roegadyn, Hrothgar, Male Au Ra, and Highlanders. Tall and classy has Elezen and Viera which can also fit into the average height range. Then there's midlanders and miqo'te sitting at a relatively average height with female miqos dipping down to 4'11" at their shortest and fem Au Ra being even shorter at 4'10".

Plenty of options for everyone except for the people that want to play something something Lalafell-sized or somewhat taller but don't exactly jive with the Lalafell aesthetics of being cutesy, conniving little backstabbers that'll scam you out of all your money. There's also a pretty sizeable gap between fem Au Ra's minimum height and Lalafell's max height of 3'2”. Calling another small race bloat when all of the other height ranges have 2 or 3 options is honestly laughable.

I think most of the races, if not all of them, aren't actually exactly what players want either. Male au ra midsection is constantly pointed out, not having a 'proper' elf race, highlander's having no eyebrows, etc. I just don't think that warrants the addition of another small race, with slightly different proportions and animations to lalafell, or just a furry variant. I'd rather they, instead of adding new races, now focus on what we have and give us all more options. Especially, if the addition of another race - small or not - would be yet another limited race, one that may even require a fantasia to change the face/hair just like with hrothgar's "unique heads".

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Is that not enough? I still do not see the need here, nor why we should have another. If we didn't already have something sure, I could at least humor the request as beneficial for the game, instead I just see it as what would be bloat.

This really isn't an argument....Viera is nothing but Bloat...and yet...here they are.
Lalafell being the One and Only Short Race option is abit unfair, again we dont necessarily NEED another short option, but if we were to get another new race then we SHOULD get another short option. It would be Beneficial to the game to open more Diverse options.

instead of adding new races, now focus on what we have and give us all more options.

Why not both? If they are able and want to, why can't we get both more options for existing races as well as adding new races?

yet another limited race, one that may even require a fantasia to change the face/hair just like with hrothgar's "unique heads".

Im not gonna tell anyone to get over it.....but at least stop using the Hrothgar as an excuse to say no to a new race like any race would have the exact same issue, or like YoshiP and the Devs wont figure a way to prevent this in a future race.

[SturmChurro]

This really isn't an argument....Viera is nothing but Bloat...and yet...here they are.
Lalafell being the One and Only Short Race option is abit unfair, again we dont necessarily NEED another short option, but if we were to get another new race then we SHOULD get another short option. It would be Beneficial to the game to open more Diverse options.



Why not both? If they are able and want to, why can't we get both more options for existing races as well as adding new races?



Im not gonna tell anyone to get over it.....but at least stop using the Hrothgar as an excuse to say no to a new race like any race would have the exact same issue, or like YoshiP and the Devs wont figure a way to prevent this in a future race.

I do think viera are bloat, and frankly shouldn't have been added - in their limited state. I definitely think male viera shouldn't have been added yet either. I just don't see any purpose in adding more bloat, especially if it was to be for some small race like this. What does it matter if it's fair or not? Games don't have unlimited budgets to be spent on novelties, especially when there are already more than enough races in the game.

Yeah, maybe they won't have hrothgar style limitations, they just won't have any headgear instead.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I do think viera are bloat, and frankly shouldn't have been added - in their limited state. I definitely think male viera shouldn't have been added yet either. I just don't see any purpose in adding more bloat, especially if it was to be for some small race like this. What does it matter if it's fair or not? Games don't have unlimited budgets to be spent on novelties, especially when there are already more than enough races in the game.

Yeah, maybe they won't have hrothgar style limitations, they just won't have any headgear instead.

You still make it sound like the Devs wouldn't try to make sure a Hrothgar situation wouldn't happen again.
And, I hope my point is clear that we dont Need the new race, just that if we get another new one that it 'should' be another small one. Limitations or it being a Limited Race isn't part of the argument. The Fairness point is about having another option for a short race IF we got a new race