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    Lalafells don't make me want to violate the Geneva convention, so they are fine. FemRoe on the other hand...
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    I think you need to be careful making certain kinds of jokes, especially around people you don't know. Even though you have good intentions, all the person on the other end gets is text with no tone of voice or mood. They only know some random stranger decided to single them out and make them the center of attention, which can be uncomfortable or intimidating even when they know it's a joke. I can certainly imagine them thinking "Why is this person making fun of my character?" And if you keep it up with multiple comments throughout the dungeon, that can naturally evolve into "What is this person's problem with me!?"
    This. It's a perfect stranger making jokes at someone else's expense. And the general feeling in this thread is that said person just has to put up with being the butt of their joke because they want to tell it. But they don't have to do that. They can find it tired or unfunny or inappropriate. And they're not being uptight or a party pooper when they do so. They're asserting what their boundaries are.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    This. It's a perfect stranger making jokes at someone else's expense. And the general feeling in this thread is that said person just has to put up with being the butt of their joke because they want to tell it. But they don't have to do that. They can find it tired or unfunny or inappropriate. And they're not being uptight or a party pooper when they do so. They're asserting what their boundaries are.
    Apparently us having boundaries is deemed highly problematic by the community. If we don't go along with the joke we're 'uptight' or 'need to go outside'.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Apparently us having boundaries is deemed highly problematic by the community. If we don't go along with the joke we're 'uptight' or 'need to go outside'.
    I don't want to get ultra-serious but those are the same sort of things I hear as a woman about "locker room" types of jokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Apparently us having boundaries is deemed highly problematic by the community. If we don't go along with the joke we're 'uptight' or 'need to go outside'.
    I mean in this case I do think most reasonable people would view this as a silly issue boardering on uptight.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I don't want to get ultra-serious but those are the same sort of things I hear as a woman about "locker room" types of jokes.
    Agreed. It doesn't matter how minor or harmless it is. If someone is bothered by it, no matter their personal reasonings behind it, you should stop out of respect for that person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I mean in this case I do think most reasonable people would view this as a silly issue boardering on uptight.
    It's annoying. It's akin to a fly. A common house fly is harmless in a lot of ways. It can be easily avoided by going into another room or going outside of your house. But it doesn't change the fact that it's an irritant and you likely want to be rid of it.

    That's how I view the jokes. They buzz their same old buzz and it's bothersome.
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    Last edited by xxmiamorecadenza; 08-24-2021 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Agreed. It doesn't matter how minor or harmless it is. If someone is bothered by it, no matter their personal reasonings behind it, you should stop out of respect for that person.



    It's annoying. It's akin to a fly. A common house fly is harmless in a lot of ways. It can be easily avoided by going into another room or going outside of your house. But it doesn't change the fact that it's an irritant and you likely want to be rid of it.

    That's how I view the jokes. They buzz their same old buzz and it's bothersome.
    Normally I do not see people voicing their annoyance towards said fly in a public space they either kill it or ignore it for the most part.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Normally I do not see people voicing their annoyance towards said file in a public space they either kill it or ignore it for the most part.
    Yet the jokes are often made in 'public' spaces. In parties, shout chat or in social settings in general such as Discord. The people making the jests are interacting with other people and likely expecting a response.

    So that's why, in voice chat for example, if someone were to say they wanted to 'punt me' or that 'i'm a little evil creature' I'm going to respond appropriately - which is by telling them to 'stop'.

    Yet the behavior persists regardless. And it's considered acceptable and even encouraged.
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    Last edited by xxmiamorecadenza; 08-24-2021 at 11:58 AM.

  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Normally I do not see people voicing their annoyance towards said fly in a public space they either kill it or ignore it for the most part.
    Well yes, some kill (report) them. Some ignore them.

    But flies don't really value their "life" anyways. So no need to cry about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    Yet the jokes are often made in 'public' spaces. In parties, shout chat or in social settings in general such as Discord. The people making the jests are interacting with other people.

    So that's why, in voice chat for example, if someone were to say they wanted to 'punt me' or that 'i'm a little evil creature' I'm going to respond appropriately - which is by telling them to 'stop'.
    Point remains if someone refers to your character as an evil creature and that annoys you to the point where you need to voice concern when one could have easily just ignore the annoyance. Then do not get shocked people call you soft or uptight. Cause generally such comments are easily seen as jokes and nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Well yes, some kill (report) them. Some ignore them.

    But flies don't really value their "life" anyways. So no need to cry about them.
    Let us be real as mentioned in other posts if people walked around in fear of the ToS players would not be able to do much of anything since the ToS is so vaguely written depending on the GM an action can be seen as nothing or something.

    Though yeah people can report people for what they want though reporting someone for established memes are soft.
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    Last edited by Awha; 08-24-2021 at 12:08 PM.

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