Do you tease lalafells?

[Kolsykol]

This is harassment, please report them as this isn't a joke. This is disgusting behavior.

This is a perfect example of people not understanding a light hearted joke VS. actual harassment. This is why, I will never return to the forums people can't tell the difference. I had the page open and I regret it and can't stop myself from commenting. Thank god for GM's who can actually look at conversations.

I agree with you but the problem is that a lot of people don't see it as harassment and it being harassment also depends on context and pov.
From our pov it might be harassment but to a lot of the people making those comments it's '' just a joke '' or they think it's a compliment.

I actually would take it as a light-hearted joke too if I knew the person which is kinda my point, because the context of it changes when I know where they're coming from.
I am not actually offended by sexual comments or sexualized content quite the opposite.
But it stops being fun if there are bad motives/ intent and I can't know that unless I know the person at some level and that makes me uneasy.

And I think it's the same with Lalafell comments for example.
If you make a comment about it to a Lalafell player they won't inherently know where you're coming from and if it actually is '' just '' a joke or not.
And if it's not then it could be seen as harassment.

[Ftail]

I agree with you but the problem is that a lot of people don't see it as harassment and it being harassment also depends on context and pov.
From our pov it might be harassment but to a lot of the people making those comments it's '' just a joke '' or they think it's a compliment.

I actually would take it as a light-hearted joke too if I knew the person which is kinda my point, because the context of it changes when I know where they're coming from.
I am not actually offended by sexual comments or sexualized content quite the opposite.
But it stops being fun if there are bad motives/ intent and I can't know that unless I know the person at some level and that makes me uneasy.

And I think it's the same with Lalafell comments for example.
If you make a comment about it to a Lalafell player they won't inherently know where you're coming from and if it actually is '' just '' a joke or not.
And if it's not then it could be seen as harassment.

People should never sexualize you, that is offensive. Please be offended and report that. That is a lot different then me asking an Elezen to grab something off the top shelf during a dungeon as a joke. People are forgetting what is acceptable as a joke, and what is seriously harassment that should get you banned. What you or me feel should be seen as harassment is unimportant, report that to a GM and they will administer justice.

God, I really want to stop commenting here. I have a sickness, where I want to explain myself and talk to people as human beings.

[Kolsykol]

People should never sexualize you, that is offensive. Please be offended and report that. That is a lot different then me asking an Elezen to grab something off the top shelf during a dungeon as a joke. People are forgetting what is acceptable as a joke, and what is seriously harassment that should get you banned. What you or me feel should be seen as harassment is unimportant, report that to a GM and they will administer justice.

God, I really want to stop commenting here. I have a sickness, where I want to explain myself and talk to people as human beings.

Unless you're not offended by being sexualized then it's not offensive.
And you can be fine with being sexualized by one person but not the other.
In fact I'd say that's how most people work it's about autonomy and personal boundaries.

I don't think that it's unimportant because whether something is or isn't harassment is going to depend on how you interpret and feel about something too.
I mean are you saying that if one is totally fine with having someone lewd their character that it it's still harassment if they lewd their character?
It's no longer harassment at that point because they're fine with it.

Harassment is unwanted behaviour towards you particularly when it's repeated.
So yes if you start making jokes about an Elezen player being tall and they tell you to stop and you keep going and it's making them uncomfortable that's harassment.
I don't think that you should be getting banned for the initial joke tho it's the repeated and deliberate thing that you should be getting banned for if that's the case.

Edit: There are ofc degrees to this, I do think that there is a difference between a tall joke and perverted comments I am not saying that there aren't.