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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Except that DNC do get punished in that their damage is lower if they fail.
    DNC is also primarily a support Job that I ultimately think is designed to be a bit more friendly to play than NIN ( even tho I think NIN is really easy too ).
    And also their dances have other functions outside of damage, the only case of this for NIN are Huiton ( kinda irrelevant here ) and Suiton every 60 sec which you have another shot at and in worst case scenario Ten Chi Jin.

    I don't agree with the notion that every Job essentially needs to be '' accessible '' to everyone either.
    The Mudra system isn't even hard and people with most disabilities can play it just fine.
    I honestly think that usually people just point to people with disabilities as a way to try and justify why they think that things need to be easier when in reality most disabled people are far more capable than they're given credit for.
    There are exceptions to this but most people who are disabled do overcome it in other ways and I don't think that just because they exist that every Job/ Class in a game needs to be designed with those exceptions in mind. It's a very limiting way of approaching game design.
    And quite frankly if you have problems with pushing a lot of buttons then most Jobs in this game are going to be a problem for you.
    I mean the one thing I could see I guess is if you pressed Ninjutsu and it turned your 123 basic combo into the mudras and that's how you did it, but I just think that sounds clunky. I really don't even think that NIN is that bad in this regard.

    I also fail to see how a small heal would add fun then.
    To me the Rabbit is a fun and quirky thing that has been around since ARR, it's more fun imo than the game giving you a silver medal for failing instead of a gold medal.
    Getting the Rabbit also doesn't lock you out for more than like one or two seconds at absolute most and you can still attack while that cd is going on, so if you fail it just do another attack it's that simple.

    It's not about elitism either it's about the fact that I actually agree that they're not very skill intensive and that's also part of why the Rabbit is comedic in nature.
    Because you failed at something that isn't actually that difficult.
    And if it's not that difficult there is no reason imo why the game should be holding your hand.
    Just because someone is against something being made easier or less punishing doesn't mean that they're an elitist

    The punishment is also not that severe, the only case where it could be is if you're constantly messing them up which would most likely be due to lag.
    At which point none of this matters because you may as well just consider your dps dead at that point.
    The example about casting a spell and dropping to 0 mana without regen for 6 secs is also on a whole other level it's not comparable at all.
    Missing a mudra is nowhere near that insane.

    Edit: If people want to get into this then imo a more common problem than the Rabbit is not getting to reset your Mudras because the tank ( or another dps/ healer ) pulls too fast.
    If you want to talk about clunky and missed out damage for dumb reasons then having to Huiton then Hide at the start is way dumber imo and it's way more common that you lose out on a Raiton that way.
    Which is actually something I hope that they fix in Endwalker, I hope that the new ability in the Benchmark trailer is our new Huiton and that it's only usable in combat and deals damage to compensate.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 08-19-2021 at 11:46 AM.