50-minute The Tower at Paradigm Breach runs...

[Its_Elodie]

No wonder nobody takes the NA forums seriously.

[ICountFrom0]

Well, it's that lack of serious attention that lets the trolls grow here, and then try to cause trouble elsewhere, then they get banned.

If we actually had staff here who cared about anything more then the W word, we'd not grow trolls quite as fast or often.

Then we might actually have conversations that got somewhere without being incited into ... well... *gestures at the rest of the topic*

[XiXiQ]

I don't like breach AT ALL. It's murder on the eyes, and full of awful mechanics, none particularly instinctive for FF players. It's no wonder people are bad at it or it takes too long.

[Marc-Vigar]

No wonder nobody takes the NA forums seriously.

Did you know there are more countries besides yours? This isn't the NA forum, it's the ENGLISH forum for America, Europe, Oceania, Russia, etc.

You are not the center of the universe.

Surprising, I know.

[Its_Elodie]

Did you know there are more countries besides yours? This isn't the NA forum, it's the ENGLISH forum for America, Europe, Oceania, Russia, etc.

You are not the center of the universe.

Surprising, I know.

…arguing that a forum encompasses more than just NA areas changes what about the fact that the official forum is turning into a literal circus with the amount and frequency of troll bait threads, accounts, and posts over the last few months? You can argue for the sake of semantics, but my point still stands.

[Wavaryen]

…arguing that a forum encompasses more than just NA areas changes what about the fact that the official forum is turning into a literal circus with the amount and frequency of troll bait threads, accounts, and posts over the last few months? You can argue for the sake of semantics, but my point still stands.

Sad thing is. The game is good because the developers don't listen to us English speakers. Lmao. As soon as they give in to us, the game will go downhill.

[Theodric]

Sad thing is. The game is good because the developers don't listen to us English speakers. Lmao. As soon as they give in to us, the game will go downhill.

It can easily be argued that the game has many flaws and that by ignoring English speakers, the game already is going downhill on many fronts.

Furthermore, many of the people posting here are from a number of different countries. Many English speakers are from European countries and not just North America. There's also Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

We also should not forget that by ignoring feedback the game already failed once already - and just because it is popular at the moment, that does not necessarily mean that there can't be another fall from grace for the game if questionable decisions are made in the immediate or distant future.

After all, WoW did very well for itself for many years before eventually falling beneath the weight of its own hubris.

To say nothing of the fact that a lot of the feedback on the English forums is, in fact, pretty constructive. A case can be made for ignoring the feedback that isn't constructive - but to ignore English speakers across the board? Yeah, no. That isn't really a viable business strategy.

[jetfire117]

Or how about this. Build a social network and stop expecting pugs to have a standard. Unless you make the group or the group is made by players that set the ground rules. The game made the group for you, and set no standards on how players play.



The risks of getting a bad group counters the convenience of how easy it is to make groups. Expecting people to have the same standards as you in a pug group is foolish. They can play how they want, and if they get kicked. Will easily find another group.


You have tools to counter them. They don't got to try, or even play the fullest. Just because they are grouping does not mean they got to respect anyone. You all just using each other for progression, it is not like you are friends, or should care about each others fun. Because maybe them trying is not fun for them. And you running over the fun they having. Just like them being lazy is running over yours. That is the price of pugging, and I think it adds spice to the game.

If it was just leveling content, I would agree with your posts. But this is "end-game" lvl 80 content. Stop encouraging incompetence and blatant laziness.

[Kes13a]

To say nothing of the fact that a lot of the feedback on the English forums is, in fact, pretty constructive. A case can be made for ignoring the feedback that isn't constructive - but to ignore English speakers across the board? Yeah, no. That isn't really a viable business strategy.

if they ARE in fact, ignoring any English forum feedback, I would say so far it has been a fairly viable business strategy as they have been increasing market share over the years.

[Wavaryen]

If it was just leveling content, I would agree with your posts. But this is "end-game" lvl 80 content. Stop encouraging incompetence and blatant laziness.

I encourage for you to play how you want in duty finder. If being lazy or incompetence is fun for you. More power to you. Duty Finder is not a place for me to judge someones skill, or how they want to get through it.

It can easily be argued that the game has many flaws and that by ignoring English speakers, the game already is going downhill on many fronts.

Furthermore, many of the people posting here are from a number of different countries. Many English speakers are from European countries and not just North America. There's also Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

We also should not forget that by ignoring feedback the game already failed once already - and just because it is popular at the moment, that does not necessarily mean that there can't be another fall from grace for the game if questionable decisions are made in the immediate or distant future.

After all, WoW did very well for itself for many years before eventually falling beneath the weight of its own hubris.

To say nothing of the fact that a lot of the feedback on the English forums is, in fact, pretty constructive. A case can be made for ignoring the feedback that isn't constructive - but to ignore English speakers across the board? Yeah, no. That isn't really a viable business strategy.

I think they ignore our feedback and listen to the JP community, and also see what works in wow, and what does not.




People complain about Blizzard and wow...but many things that Blizzard added to the game players asked for, and when players got it. They was still unhappy.


What I learn from the mmorpg community from the NA/English side is. We complain about content, we say we don't like something. When it gets changed, we still complain about it. We are never happy, while the JP side from what I was told by my JP friend. When a issue comes up, they talk about it. When it gets changed, they praise and thank developers move on.


Just reading and understanding the feedback on what makes us happy is hard for japanese people, because our values are not the same. Just look at the cash shop, or a business being a business. My friend is very understanding on what a business is, and what it is for. She does not understand the concept of business wanting to make money is evil, or the "greed' topic that keeps coming up. She also says that it feels like people don't understand or don't know what they want. Like want harder content, but the game has harder content. That not good enough? Wanting to take away content from other players.


The point is this, If the developers started listening to us on some things. It would ruin the game, The JP community has things under control. They want the game to succeed and feel when it does. We all are winning. Unlike us who think of business as our enemy. English speaking community can give feedback, but I'm 100 percent ok with this company taking that feedback with a grain of salt. We have ruined enough games with our feedback.