PLD needs an oGCD damage ability for their Oath Gauge

[Ultimatecalibur]

I'm not seeing how this is a problem. Tanks are just blue DPS at this point anyway. We put just as much effort into fine tuning our numbers as the red boys do, so what harm will giving shelltron some kind of offensive benefit really do?

Force Paladin to be MT in most fights and/or take unnecessary damage or otherwise lose out on dps. Any job with as significant* enough counterattack action will force compositions to cater to them for dps gains. The only real way to balance that is to also give Raw Intuition, TBN and Heart of Stone to include counter attack mechanics than increase dps by equal amounts.

*Vengence's damage is insignificant due to being a lot less than the game's damage variance.

[Garnix]

Force Paladin to be MT in most fights and/or take unnecessary damage or otherwise lose out on dps. Any job with as significant* enough counterattack action will force compositions to cater to them for dps gains. The only real way to balance that is to also give Raw Intuition, TBN and Heart of Stone to include counter attack mechanics than increase dps by equal amounts.

*Vengence's damage is insignificant due to being a lot less than the game's damage variance.

Honestly it doesn't even need to be significant for me to want it. Like if you tell me that each time I use Sheltron/Intervention correctly I got a free Shield Swipe with a potency of 10, I would still be happy to use it.

[Ultimatecalibur]

This is incorrect. If Sheltron and Intervention both have the same counterattack proc attached, it doesn't matter who is actively tanking.

Even if both could proc a counterattack you would just get a similar situation to Dark Knight on the JP servers which treats DRK as a MT due to TBN even though it can be used on both the DRK and other targets due to it being much easier to insure that TBN breaks as you don't need to target anyone else.

And if you don't want Shield Swipe back on PLD, that's fine with me too. They should keep it as the basic tank going forward, because that's what players likely want. I think DRK players, in contrast, would welcome back Reprisal for more counterattack themed gameplay.

I'm not against counterattack mechanics returning if properly design. I'm just aware of many of the balance issues associated with them in the current game state.

Honestly it doesn't even need to be significant for me to want it. Like if you tell me that each time I use Sheltron/Intervention correctly I got a free Shield Swipe with a potency of 10, I would still be happy to use it.

No, you wouldn't. You would be complaining about it being a useless action.